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06-19-2013, 11:32 AM
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I don't know why Homer would hang on to him for one more year. If he gets hurt, he can't get bought out.
I wouldn't worry about him getting hurt.....hard to get hurt when you are sleeping on and off the ice

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06-19-2013, 11:33 AM
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Lay on McDuff, it's only a flesh wound.
I come to praise Holmgren, not to bicker and argue over who compliance amnestied who.

Ha! Top that!!

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and then we ate the minstrels...

I'm picturing Panaccio, SanFilippo et al as the minstrels dancing around Bryzgalov (as Sir Robin).

He let in a goal, he was so slow
He ducked, he's ****ed
And he'll be free by amnesty


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I come to praise Holmgren, not to bicker and argue over who compliance amnestied who.

Ha! Top that!!



I'm picturing Panaccio, SanFilippo et al as the minstrels dancing around Bryzgalov (as Sir Robin).

He let in a goal, he was so slow
He ducked, he's ****ed
And he'll be free by amnesty
Ah yes. The Ballad of Bravely Bold Bryzgalov.

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06-19-2013, 12:09 PM
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Ah yes. The Ballad of Bravely Bold Bryzgalov.
When Weber raised his stick to slap
Bryz put his forehead on his lap

Despite the puck's trajectory, he rearranged his vertices


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06-19-2013, 12:26 PM
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Does anyone think this is Bryz's agent working with Holmgren to make a trade possible? I mean, I know Bryz would get 23M on a buyout, but that would be 1.6M for 14 years. If he plays next season on his current contract, that's 8 million. The agent gets paid percentage based on the salary per year, correct?

Assuming Bryz is bought out, I can't imagine a team signing him for more than 2M. You would think it is in the agent and Bryz's best interest to be traded rather than bought out.

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06-19-2013, 12:34 PM
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Does anyone think this is Bryz's agent working with Holmgren to make a trade possible? I mean, I know Bryz would get 23M on a buyout, but that would be 1.6M for 14 years. If he plays next season on his current contract, that's 8 million. The agent gets paid percentage based on the salary per year, correct?

Assuming Bryz is bought out, I can't imagine a team signing him for more than 2M. You would think it is in the agent and Bryz's best interest to be traded rather than bought out.
No one wants him or that contract. BUY HIM OUT

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06-19-2013, 12:38 PM
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No one wants him or that contract. BUY HIM OUT
I'm making the assumption that if they couldn't find a trade partner by the start of free agency, he would be bought out anyway. Just insinuating that both sides would rather have a trade instead of buyout.

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06-19-2013, 12:46 PM
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This organization is a joke. I bet he has a decent year next year and doesn't get bought out but precedes to be terrible for the next 7 years

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06-19-2013, 01:11 PM
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Brave Sir Ilya ran away
Bravely bravely ran away

A puck wizzed in at his open head
he bravely ducked his head and fled

Brave brave brave Sir Ilya

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06-19-2013, 01:19 PM
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When did we turn into a dumpster fire?

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Bill Meltzer's latest article says everything I would have said involving Bryzgalov and Bernier rumors and goaltending rumors in general.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill-...9#.UcIFFvbwL5g

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In Bryzgalov's case, it appears that the Flyers do not have a final decision made yet about whether to exercise a compliance buyout to get the remaining seven years of his original nine-year, $51 million contract off of their salary cap figure. Rumor has it that it depends on whether the Flyers can obtain Jonathan Bernier from Los Angeles or at least be confident of landing someone else whom they'd consider to be a suitable roster replacement at a more cap-friendly cost before they'd make a final decision to jettison the soon-to-be 33- year-old former Vezina Trophy finalist.

As such, there is really no reason for Holmgren to have said more to Winter than what the Flyers GM told Panaccio he'd said to the agent: specifically, that he did not see Bryzgalov's play as part of the problem last season. That way, the GM leaves the door open to holding onto Bryzgalov next season if other potential roster moves -- both goaltending and non-goaltending related -- do not shape up the way he wants by the end of the 2013 buyout period.

Now, one could argue that praising a player to his agent and saying he wasn't the problem in a highly disappointing season for the team may implies that the Flyers plan to keep Bryzgalov, but that's NOT the same thing as making an outright no-buyout promise. As a matter of fact, it's roughly akin what I call the "Dance of Death" with most head coaches whose jobs are very much are in jeopardy. Ownership absolves them of blame and then fires them anyway.

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06-19-2013, 02:44 PM
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A good rule of thumb for this situation...

Bryzgalov has his contract.

You dangle it.

There are 29 other teams.

If not a single team wants it...

Then you probably have a legitimate mistake on your hands.

That's the obvious sign that you should use your buyout.

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06-19-2013, 02:50 PM
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Agreed. The buyout is specifically intended for untradeable contracts.

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A good rule of thumb for this situation...

Bryzgalov has his contract.

You dangle it.

There are 29 other teams.

If not a single team wants it...

Then you probably have a legitimate mistake on your hands.

That's the obvious sign that you should use your buyout.
Wise words... hope that Holmgren has the same through process.

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06-19-2013, 03:06 PM
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A good rule of thumb for this situation...

Bryzgalov has his contract.

You dangle it.

There are 29 other teams.

If not a single team wants it...

Then you probably have a legitimate mistake on your hands.

That's the obvious sign that you should use your buyout.
Just like waiving MFL multiple times and after never getting claimed, sign him to a new contract

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06-19-2013, 04:07 PM
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if we dont use the buyout on bryz, who would we use it on, and when does the buyout expire.

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06-19-2013, 04:17 PM
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if we dont use the buyout on bryz, who would we use it on, and when does the buyout expire.
The team has next offseaon to use the amnesty as well. At this point I think it's a matter of when not if Bryz gets amnestied, either this offseason or next but it's most definitely gonna happen.

The Flyers really don't have anyone else to use it on. That in itself is not a reason to use it, I'm just saying.

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06-19-2013, 04:24 PM
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The team has next offseaon to use the amnesty as well. At this point I think it's a matter of when not if Bryz gets amnestied, either this offseason or next but it's most definitely gonna happen.

The Flyers really don't have anyone else to use it on. That in itself is not a reason to use it, I'm just saying.
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06-19-2013, 04:33 PM
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Rhetoric, rhetoric Ilya, you boy! If you have a contract, and i have a contract and I have a compliance buyout, and my buyout stretches all the way across the room and starts to buyout your contract, I buyout your contract! I buy it all!

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I still love em. I love being the only a hole that wants him here another year.

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captain america? or captain obvious.
I was answering a question so maybe it's not that obvious. Or did u just wanna roll with the whole captain thing?

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I was answering a question so maybe it's not that obvious. Or did u just wanna roll with the whole captain thing?
thanks for earlier, i do bryz will get bought out at some point.

i gotta funny feeling they keep him for 1 more year, i just hope when bryz goes, paul does to.

oh and as far as the captain thing, i take captain planet atleast he could fly.

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Brave Sir Ilya ran away
Bravely bravely ran away

A puck wizzed in at his open head
he bravely ducked his head and fled

Brave brave brave Sir Ilya
Heh, nice...

Has he been bought out yet? *sigh*

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