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06-19-2013, 11:29 AM
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Vincour to KHL

http://en.rsport.ru/hockey/20130618/668766031.html


Surprised no one saw this


Not sure of contract length?

Also why would he do this? He did very well for your AHL team...

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06-19-2013, 11:34 AM
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He probably wanted a one-way deal from Avs and didn't get it.

Even a modest $500k salary in KHL is worth more than a $800k two-way deal for someone like him, since he's likely to earn $80k in the AHL.

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06-19-2013, 11:37 AM
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Tomas Vincour, we hardly knew ye. I wish we had kept him, but as Freudian said, the KHL dollars were probably too enticing. A team like Ak Bars can pay quite a bit of money.

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06-19-2013, 11:40 AM
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Surprised no one saw this


Not sure of contract length?

Also why would he do this? He did very well for your AHL team...
Not that you would know, but this was in our Roster Moves thread and discussed there.

My guess is that the Avs were not willing to give him a 1 way deal.

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And we don't know if the Avs did or didn't (or won't?) qualify him.

Is there a possibility for an out clause for the NHL? And I also think the length will be important as well, if it's for a year or 2, I think the Avs keep his rights and track his progress

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06-19-2013, 11:42 AM
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Surprised no one saw this


Not sure of contract length?

Also why would he do this? He did very well for your AHL team...
It was mentioned in trade rumors/speculation thread.

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06-19-2013, 11:51 AM
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From the Avs to the snow leopards. To think we gave up on Cam for virtually nothing .

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06-19-2013, 11:53 AM
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From the Avs to the snow leopards. To think we gave up on Cam for virtually nothing .
Doubt he becomes anything. I currently see at least 9 defenseman ahead of him on the depth chart in Dallas. Hell, Dallas has 15 defensemen under contract. He might not even get a qualifying offer.

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06-19-2013, 12:04 PM
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Doubt he becomes anything. I currently see at least 9 defenseman ahead of him on the depth chart in Dallas. Hell, Dallas has 15 defensemen under contract. He might not even get a qualifying offer.
I really don't know what to think about him, he looked great every time I saw him in 11/12, but this year under Chyneworth at times he looked like he forgot how to play hockey, it makes me wonder what was the reason for him downward spiral, how Stef was handled by the LE staff was also puzzling at times.

Since I like him I hope he bounces back and becomes a solid NHL defenseman.

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06-19-2013, 12:11 PM
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From the Avs to the snow leopards. To think we gave up on Cam for virtually nothing .
This really isn't new by any Avs standards, for the last few years we have always traded players who don't fit our organization anymore for pending RFAs that we let go in the summer.

I wonder if this means we are going to keep Palushaj instead.

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06-19-2013, 02:45 PM
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From the Avs to the snow leopards. To think we gave up on Cam for virtually nothing .
That entire draft only produced one player for us and that was Olver...

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06-19-2013, 03:32 PM
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What a great return for Cameron Gaunce.

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06-19-2013, 04:27 PM
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I really don't know what to think about him, he looked great every time I saw him in 11/12, but this year under Chyneworth at times he looked like he forgot how to play hockey, it makes me wonder what was the reason for him downward spiral, how Stef was handled by the LE staff was also puzzling at times.

Since I like him I hope he bounces back and becomes a solid NHL defenseman.
The Avs organization has not been able to develop a quality defensive defenseman in a long time.

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06-19-2013, 04:28 PM
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What a great return for Cameron Gaunce.
I hope Sakic/Roy are better at this than the last two guys.

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06-19-2013, 04:30 PM
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Damn. Traded The Great Cameron Gaunce for nothing. Might go down as one of the worst trades in NHL history.

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It's ****ing Cam Gaunce! You guys are acting like we traded away Tyson Barrie for Vincour.


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It's ****ing Cam Gaunce! You guys are acting like we traded away Tyson Barrie for Vincour.


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06-19-2013, 05:22 PM
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Cam was the best defensive prospect we've ever had in this organization. Terrible, terrible trade, and worse news nows that Vinny is all gone.

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Cam was the best defensive prospect we've ever had in this organization. Terrible, terrible trade, and worse news nows that Vinny is all gone.
Nah.. that was Nigel Williams. I bet the meltdown around here was epic when that trade happened.

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06-19-2013, 05:35 PM
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Cam was the best defensive prospect we've ever had in this organization. Terrible, terrible trade, and worse news nows that Vinny is all gone.
Better than Duncan? Not so sure about that.

I did like Cam though and can't understand what happened last season. Seemed like he became a different player but to be honest, it's gotta be hard for a defensive dman in the AVs organization to keep a good attitude. It just seems that the AVs go out and sign or trade for bottom guys or defensive guys to round out the bottom 7 dmen instead of bringing up kids from the AHL. Boughner, Klee, O'Brien, Tarnqvist and Zannon come to mind easily. Might be others as well. It just seems we only groom small, puck moving, offensive guys. That's why I'm so excited to see how Duncan turns out.

[edit...just reread your post and damnit!!! For some damn reason, I turned off my sarcasm detector this afternoon. Geesh....sorry about that.]

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06-19-2013, 05:37 PM
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Clearly this is a move to clear up forward spot for Mackinnon

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I don't know how we are going to recover from this.

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The Avs organization has not been able to develop a quality defensive defenseman in a long time.
Would Shattenkirk count?

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06-19-2013, 05:51 PM
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Would Shattenkirk count?
Shattenkirk isn't a defensive defenseman.

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Would Shattenkirk count?
No. He didn't play acceptable defense until he played for Hitchcock in St. Louis.

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