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Something brewing between Maple Leafs and Oilers?

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06-19-2013, 11:12 PM
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Something brewing between Maple Leafs and Oilers?

Nick Kypreos says that he saw Dave Nonis and Craig MacTavish "talking for a pretty good portion after their GM meetings".

I'm sure guys like Kypreos, Dreger and LeBrun see general managers talk at these events but there must be something to it if Nick is willing to mention it on air. There are rumblings also in Oilers nation that the team has a couple deals to announce after the Stanley Cup finals end. It's not clear whether they are expected to announce the signing of their own free agents or if either deal will be a trade acquisition. The Maple Leafs and Oilers have obviously been in touch due to the Dallas Eakins hiring but could that mean a trade is in the works?

We'll find out soon enough.

Source (video): http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/l...al-with-bozak/

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06-19-2013, 11:14 PM
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Yes because washed up players who have become analysts could never spout BS right

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Nick Kypreos says that he saw Dave Nonis and Craig MacTavish "talking for a pretty good portion after their GM meetings".

I'm sure guys like Kypreos, Dreger and LeBrun see general managers talk at these events but there must be something to it if Nick is willing to mention it on air. There are rumblings also in Oilers nation that the team has a couple deals to announce after the Stanley Cup finals end. It's not clear whether they are expected to announce the signing of their own free agents or if either deal will be a trade acquisition. The Maple Leafs and Oilers have obviously been in touch due to the Dallas Eakins hiring but could that mean a trade is in the works?

We'll find out soon enough.

Source (video): http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/l...al-with-bozak/
Or it could mean he's speculating and considering the fact that the Maple Leafs and Oilers are two huge fanbases, people will flock to his Twitter/website to see what it's all about.

I do think the Oilers are going to announce a trade or two once the finals conclude I also think that this is nothing more than speculation. Who knows, maybe they were talking about how their Father's day was?

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Yes because washed up players who have become analysts could never spout BS right
You don't like Kypreos. Got it.

Now do you have anything to contribute about either the Leafs or Oilers?

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GMs must wonder "Can't I ever talk to another GM without people thinking it's about a trade?"

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Interesting to see if Dreger starts dropping hints as well.

I think he's Nonis' brother in law.

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i heard the rumor was the leafs offering a top 4 dman (+ their pick?) for the oil's pick

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Interesting to see if Dreger starts dropping hints as well.

I think he's Nonis' brother in law.
He's a second cousin or something, not a brother.

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i heard the rumor was the leafs offering a top 4 dman (+ their pick?) for the oil's pick
The Leafs have no top 4 dmen they could give up, unless they were moving Gunnarsson, which is highly unlikely as he is our most steady dman.

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gardiner for 7 seems fair

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i heard the rumor was the leafs offering a top 4 dman (+ their pick?) for the oil's pick
Rumours about players in these speculations are usually BS.

I don't think the 7th pick is involved in this.

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Who even says the guy they pick at 7 will even be half as good as Gardiner, no way I would do that deal. Gardiner is gonna be real good and the Oilers would have to give more than just the 7th pick

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if its Gardiner + our 1st this year for the #7th pick like it's speculated on the Oilers board, then it would be a highway robbery for them.

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Rumours about players in these speculations are usually BS.

I don't think the 7th pick is involved in this.
From an Oilers perspective, the 7th is likely in play on draft day if the 2 players the Oilers want are off the board.

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From an Oilers perspective, the 7th is likely in play on draft day if the 2 players the Oilers want are off the board.
The only way I think Edmonton is willing to move down to #21 is if they are sure Curtis Lazar will be available.

Even then, I wouldn't give up Jake Gardiner AND #21 for just #7 overall.

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Didn't MacTavish just state he is moving Horcoff and Hemsky?

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Problem is no one has any idea how Mac T value a guy like Gardiner.

I'm sure he's seen him play in the AHL when he was coaching down there, but more likely they add a player and move back than trade the pick outright.

If they want one young player they might just stay at 7 and hope for Monahan. If not, all options available if their guys are off the board.

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The only way I think Edmonton is willing to move down to #21 is if they are sure Curtis Lazar will be available.

Even then, I wouldn't give up Jake Gardiner AND #21 for just #7 overall.
Probably not, Oilers probably have something thrown in with #7.

But (just my opinion here) Gardiner is the Dman that Nonis will deal if he does ... Rielly is knocking on the door and it seems like Carlyle is sour on Gardiner.
Who knows.

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The only way I think Edmonton is willing to move down to #21 is if they are sure Curtis Lazar will be available.

Even then, I wouldn't give up Jake Gardiner AND #21 for just #7 overall.
Not to mention Lazar will be gone at #21 most likely.

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Probably not, Oilers probably have something thrown in with #7.

But (just my opinion here) Gardiner is the Dman that Nonis will deal if he does ... Rielly is knocking on the door and it seems like Carlyle is sour on Gardiner.
Who knows.
he was but gardiner was stellar in the playoffs and carlyle played him alot. there's no issue here.

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Gardiner for Yakupov.

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gardiner makes the most sense. PRV might be a good fit in toronto.

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Carlyle just didn't instantly give Gardiner free reign but he would usually play the most minutes (other than Phaneuf) when he played. He was outstanding in the playoffs.

I think a more likely trade would be Franson + 21st overall for 7th overall if Nurse is off the board when the Oilers pick. I think the Leafs get slightly better value than the Oilers but still not sure if the Leafs could afford to make that trade as Franson has established himself as a top 4D with lots of room for growth.

EDIT: FWIW In the playoffs Phaneuf averaged 25:22 per game (19:25 ES TOI/G), Gardiner averaged 23:01 per game (21:34 ES TOI/G), Franson averaged 22:49 per game (17:41 ES TOI/G). In the regular season Gardiner averaged ~20:30 time on ice per game. Carlyle may not have liked him immediately but he certainly earned his respect.


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I wonder what these two teams could be talking about? Dn t they both need the same things? Skilled top 6 center and top pairing D man, with a maybe if the right deal comes an upgrade in net... Both have deep pool of prospects, I can't seeing it being anything that major.

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Gardiner+Kostka for the 7th overall + PRV?

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Gardiner for Yakupov.
He's not available.

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