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Maple Leafs to buy-out Mike Komisarek.

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06-20-2013, 04:33 AM
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Without Komisarek now how are the Leafs suppose to acquire Stastny?
we still have liles

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06-20-2013, 04:57 AM
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Not sure why the leafs would do this. Hopefully it is false and planted to make the incoming UFAs more likely to consider Toronto.

Komi hasn't earned his paycheck and especially not any favours

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06-20-2013, 05:26 AM
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Not sure why the leafs would do this. Hopefully it is false and planted to make the incoming UFAs more likely to consider Toronto.

Komi hasn't earned his paycheck and especially not any favours
Well there is the matter of 4mil in cap space he takes up. ~3mil if he's in the minors.

That said, I think he'd like to go to a team in the American North East.

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06-20-2013, 05:34 AM
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fyi "rotting" in the ahl doesnt give a team cap relief any more

so Id say keeping his cap hit but not having him on the riser would be considerably more stupid
Using buyouts on guys with 1 year left is shortsighted and stupid. If you are going to use buyouts you use them to provide long term flexibility.

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06-20-2013, 05:40 AM
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Using buyouts on guys with 1 year left is shortsighted and stupid. If you are going to use buyouts you use them to provide long term flexibility.
Sure, but what if you already have that long term flexibility in place? Might as well buyout a guy who doesn't figure into your plans.

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06-20-2013, 05:59 AM
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If he'd sign a 1-2 year deal fairly cheap, I could see BM signing him in Anaheim as I expect Lydman will go elsewhere. It's a BM kind of move, but under Boudreau maybe he could rebound.

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06-20-2013, 06:27 AM
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Komisarek will return in Montreal and play with Markov.

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06-20-2013, 06:37 AM
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Although there is no room as of now, if the Rangers do trade Del Zotto for a young forward, I could see Komi coming to NY. He's a crease clearing defenseman, who is clearly at best a 5-6 defenseman in the league. Take into account McIlrath might take his spot any way and these would be the pairs:

McD - Girardi
Staal - Stralman
Moore - Komisarek

I'm not a advocating trading Del Zotto by any means but it is something to think about.

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06-20-2013, 06:54 AM
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Just to clarify, what are the rules about players like Komisarek with a contract in the minors? I thought players could still be burried in the AHL this coming year without the cap hit, but I have seen a few people say this is not the case anymore (obviously from the CBA). Would the full amount of his contract still cound against the salary cap, or is it a percentage, or something else?

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06-20-2013, 07:08 AM
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Personally I'd be looking into options to exchange bad contracts. Look for a cash poor team who would have trouble swallowing a large buyout and switch, with perhaps a 2nd rounder included, for Komi. Leafs use their financial muscle to pull off the bigger buyout and get the pick, other team inherits a much easier contract to buyout.

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06-20-2013, 07:15 AM
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Just to clarify, what are the rules about players like Komisarek with a contract in the minors? I thought players could still be burried in the AHL this coming year without the cap hit, but I have seen a few people say this is not the case anymore (obviously from the CBA). Would the full amount of his contract still cound against the salary cap, or is it a percentage, or something else?
Players can be buried in the minors but any amount of their cap hit over X still counts against the cap. X is something like $800,000. Maybe it's $1.2m, maybe $700k. The idea there is so that your actual regular minor league players aren't counting against your cap but your "buried" $3-6m players do, less the amount allowed. It might still be worthwhile to bury a crappy $2-3m dollar player in certain situations, but it has in effect ruined burying as a tool.

To be more direct, I BELIEVE a cap hit greater than X counts as "cap hit minus X". I don't believe the full hit counts.

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Yeah, Komi to Rangers as 6th/7th. about 1mil deal. I would take it.

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06-20-2013, 07:36 AM
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Don't get this. Why would the leafs pay Komi out so he can sign as a sixth D to someone in our division? Especially when we don't need the cap space until next year and it wouldn't save any more money than burying him in the minors for a year.

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06-20-2013, 08:03 AM
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if nonis doesnt plan on using the amnesty buyouts on anyone else he might as well use one on komisarek. you can say what you want about his play but the guy conducted himself like a gentleman and deserves to be treated with respect.

i dont understand how people can think he will come back to haunt the leafs in the future. if he is playing in the ahl or a healthy scratch on the leafs behind players like kostka you cant be that selfish and keep him down. he also has only one year left on his contract so if its going to happen, its going to happen regardless.

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I cant see it myself only 1 year left at 3.5 real pay and 4,5 caphit somebody will bite on him
4.5 off the books is huge. Plus he deserves a shot with another team, he's been a great team soldier through all of this. We need the cap space to sign a bunch of our guys and hopefully a free agent addition like Clarkson or Weiss

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06-20-2013, 08:05 AM
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Don't get this. Why would the leafs pay Komi out so he can sign as a sixth D to someone in our division? Especially when we don't need the cap space until next year and it wouldn't save any more money than burying him in the minors for a year.
We actually do need the cap space, we still have to sign Franson, Kadri and if we hope to actually improve and get some more talent on the roster in free agency we're going to need all the cap space we can get. There's no point in hanging on to Komi for one more year when all he's doing is taking up a roster spot on the Marlies which could go to a younger player and 4.5 million dollars on the cap. Time to let him go and move on from that contract.

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06-20-2013, 08:08 AM
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Earth shattering news

Bad hockey player might be bought out

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06-20-2013, 08:11 AM
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waste of $$ to buy out a player on his last year when he can just be demoted, and off the books anyways, and act as a mentor.

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06-20-2013, 08:14 AM
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waste of $$ to buy out a player on his last year when he can just be demoted, and off the books anyways, and act as a mentor.
Still counts on the cap when hes in the AHL. New CBA clause

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06-20-2013, 08:25 AM
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We actually do need the cap space, we still have to sign Franson, Kadri and if we hope to actually improve and get some more talent on the roster in free agency we're going to need all the cap space we can get. There's no point in hanging on to Komi for one more year when all he's doing is taking up a roster spot on the Marlies which could go to a younger player and 4.5 million dollars on the cap. Time to let him go and move on from that contract.
Actually no we will need that 4.5 just for Kessel and Phaneuf next year. No UFA worth having is going to sign for one year.

We are not spending to the cap this year.

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06-20-2013, 08:48 AM
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Stupid move there's no point in buying him out. Let him rot in the ahl.
AHL = counts against the cap.
Buyout = does not count against the cap.

Your idea sounds so much better.

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Komisarek to Philadelphia for Tye Mcginn
no effin thanks

we have no interest in him

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Feel bad for Komi.

Guy wasn't as bad as people thought. Came in last year and really wanted a spot. The depth kept him out of the line-up, and he really wasn't given a shot.

wait - did I just rhythm that whole thing and not even know it?

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Komisarek to Philadelphia for Tye Mcginn
Philly says no. Too much $ and they have 8 d-men on the roster right now.

Kimmo Schenn
Streit Coburn
Gus Grossmann
extra-Mez, Gervais

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Good guy or not, you do what's best for the team. Using a buyout on a player with only 1 year left at 4.5 cap hit is not wise. He's not even that bad of a player. It's just his paycheque doesn't justify.

A team with decent financial stability would definitely use a guy like Komisarek as a bottom 6 shut down guy. And he would come cheap. I'd take a 4th round pick for him. It's the best option for Nonis and Komi. Otherwise he endures another year in the AHL.

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