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06-20-2013, 02:29 PM
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Jim Lites seems to have a problem with saying things he shouldnt.

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Good news- I can't think of a better available option.

Bad news- I can't think of a better available option.

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06-20-2013, 02:40 PM
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This is like the new jersey design to me...

1. it's better than what we had
2. let's see what it looks like on the ice



Sabre fan here...ruff is a good coach ....very revered in buffalo still...with talent he will make things happen....ruff was the scapegoat in buffalo....our gm should have been fired but for the sake of ruffs reputation it was good to get him out of the mess we have up there....I'm a native buffalonian living in Beaumont Tx my second team just became the stars...even considering 'the goal'....I will plan to make a game...Good Luck Lindy bring the cup to Dallas!

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Seems to be taken down already.

Two rather interesting first posts on this page IMO.

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Seems to be taken down already.

Two rather interesting first posts on this page IMO.
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Sabre fan here...ruff is a good coach ....very revered in buffalo still...with talent he will make things happen....ruff was the scapegoat in buffalo....our gm should have been fired but for the sake of ruffs reputation it was good to get him out of the mess we have up there....I'm a native buffalonian living in Beaumont Tx my second team just became the stars...even considering 'the goal'....I will plan to make a game...Good Luck Lindy bring the cup to Dallas!
Also, any coach will wear out his welcome at some point. When you're with a team that long there are going to be some negative looking things that pop up. It's a feather in his cap that he was able to make it work with one organization for so long.

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Of all the coaches of all the teams in all the world...

This hiring gets an A+ irony rating.

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Better than Torts. Not many options out there, so I'll judge this in the future.

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It's interesting because Ruff coaches very similar to the philosophy Detroit runs. Very little specialization of roles for players, every guy is expected to play in all situations. I know a lot of people who think the game has passed Ruff by, but I think it's more a matter of getting the right sort of roster for him to do well with.

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This is the last update I can find.
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Been told that Stars are very impressed with Lindy Ruff. But no deal in place yet.

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Would Blashill not be a better option than Ruff? I respect Ruff as a coach, but instead of recycling coaches from other teams, shouldn't we go with someone new who can work with all the young guys we've got coming in?

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Would Blashill not be a better option than Ruff? I respect Ruff as a coach, but instead of recycling coaches from other teams, shouldn't we go with someone new who can work with all the young guys we've got coming in?
I don't know if it's all Ruff or not, but when it comes to player development he did a great job in Buffalo.

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Dreger is on NHL Network now.

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A day or two more Nill plans on spending with Ruff
Ruff's first interview with the Stars was very positive

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Would Blashill not be a better option than Ruff? I respect Ruff as a coach, but instead of recycling coaches from other teams, shouldn't we go with someone new who can work with all the young guys we've got coming in?
Nill would go with a new coach if he felt the news one was he best one. Now it seems like he thinks Ruff is the next best coach after AV, therefore choosing him.

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I don't know if it's all Ruff or not, but when it comes to player development he did a great job in Buffalo.
True, though more recent trends suggests that he is losing touch with that regard or at least in sustaining their production re: Myers, Ennis etc.

Forget about Blashill and Ruff, let's give Keith Jones the job. I want to explore his out of the box tactics and see what they would look like on the ice. "Shoot the puck right at an opposing player and try to injure them" is at the top of my list of things I'd like to see us try.

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Nill would go with a new coach if he felt the news one was he best one. Now it seems like he thinks Ruff is the next best coach after AV, therefore choosing him.
If I wanted the "hockey" or "political" answer I would have asked for it. I'm searching to see what people's opinions are .

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Lindy was under 40 when he was hired in Buffalo? I feel like he has always looked like he's 50 years old.

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Lindy was under 40 when he was hired in Buffalo? I feel like he has always looked like he's 50 years old.
Probably what living in Buffalo will do to you.

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Would Blashill not be a better option than Ruff?
The Stars need two coaches, right?

Maybe Nill will hire both with Ruff playing the role of Wade Phillips and Blashill playing the role of Jason Garrett (a backstabbing waiting to happen).

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True, though more recent trends suggests that he is losing touch with that regard or at least in sustaining their production re: Myers, Ennis etc.

Forget about Blashill and Ruff, let's give Keith Jones the job. I want to explore his out of the box tactics and see what they would look like on the ice. "Shoot the puck right at an opposing player and try to injure them" is at the top of my list of things I'd like to see us try.


but seriously, i am not sure about Ruff. He seems solid but unremarkable.
Washington's hiring of Oates (a remarkable teacher, professional) seems to have worked.
I prefer that take on a coach to a "system" or x's and o's, rigid and strict kind of coach.

I would much rather have Willie or Blashill than Ruff I think.

Last, and maybe most importantly, Ruff's mustache is just not at all impressive. Tippet's is fantastic and Willie has a good one. Blashill has none, so maybe that was it; better some mustache than none at all.

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True, though more recent trends suggests that he is losing touch with that regard or at least in sustaining their production re: Myers, Ennis etc.
Doesn't seem that bad on Ennis, he missed a lot of time with a injury. His ice time increased and his production increased (per game) in his second season, even though he only played in 48 out of 82 games.
Myers is pretty much the only one. Is that all on Ruff's though? It's hard to say.


Ruff's strong track record of player development in Buffalo.
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Maybe everything shouldn't be credited to Nill on it, but he has turned around some players careers, developed drafted picks/prospects etc. For the most part, while it's not always lead to playoff spots he has won a lot of games without tons of talent. The two years he had more talent (since 2005) he made the Conference Finals both years.

Not saying he's the best coach, but he's a very strong choice based on his track record for what the Stars need going forward.


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06-20-2013, 04:35 PM
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Doesn't seem that bad on Ennis, he missed a lot of time with a injury. His ice time increased and his production increased (per game) in his second season, even though he only played in 48 out of 82 games.
Myers is pretty much the only one. Is that Ruff's fault though?
Ennis' stats marginally declined this season (3 less points, though one less game played), but yes he was recovering from an injury.

Roy and Stafford would be two other examples of young players brought in that tasted some success early on then eventually regressed quite a degree in production. It might not directly be Ruff's fault, but he has to take some of the blame as the head coach of the team.

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The Stars need two coaches, right?

Maybe Nill will hire both with Ruff playing the role of Wade Phillips and Blashill playing the role of Jason Garrett (a backstabbing waiting to happen).
Then the team flounders through both regimes? I thought we were trying to make this team better!

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Ennis' stats marginally declined this season (3 less points, though one less game played), but yes he was recovering from an injury.
This season isn't the best to base it off, since Ruff was only in Buffalo for the first 17 games.

If you really wanted to consider it based on this season.
Under Ruff
17 games 5 goals 8 assists 13 points

After Ruff was gone
30 games 5 goals 13 assists 18 points

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Roy and Stafford would be two other examples of young players brought in that tasted some success early on then eventually regressed quite a degree in production. It might not be directly Ruff's fault, but he has to take some of the blame as the head coach of the team.
Roy was coming off the major injury to his leg and playing with the shoulder injury. That's the main reason for his lack of success his last season in Buffalo. Prior to leg injury he was a point per game player (35 points in 35 games) and 69 points in 80 games his last full season(Buffalo made playoffs this year). The year he had 80 points he overachieved, he settled into his normal of the 60-70 points the other years.

Stafford has had his problems with injuries and he's simply just a inconsistent winger. That's not really going to change no matter what the coach is.

Ruff does have his flaws, but player development isn't one of them.
One article I found mentioned.
Buffalo has the seventh most wins since 2005 and the third most goals scored only behind (Pittsburgh and Detroit)

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