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06-20-2013, 07:42 PM
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Interesting. Does Harrington project higher than Dumoulin, Maatta or Pouliot? I'm very curious to see how these 4 are slotted by Pens fans.
They're very different types of defensemen, so projecting "higher" is moot. Harrington's a defense-first type, Dumoulin and Maatta are two-way types, and Pouliot's a dynamic offensive type.

In spite of our recent inability to score against Boston, shutdown defense is our greatest need on the blueline. Harrington has been the best shutdown prospect in junior the past couple years, and would make the perfect complement to Letang if he keeps progressing as well as he has to this point.

That said, I'd prefer to hang onto all of them unless absolutely blown away.

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06-20-2013, 08:13 PM
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Jeffrey can definitely be a solid 3C if given the chance. He'll never get that in Pittsburgh though.
I wonder if it might be worth it to pursue a smaller deal centered around him instead? Hmmm....

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They're very different types of defensemen, so projecting "higher" is moot. Harrington's a defense-first type, Dumoulin and Maatta are two-way types, and Pouliot's a dynamic offensive type.

In spite of our recent inability to score against Boston, shutdown defense is our greatest need on the blueline. Harrington has been the best shutdown prospect in junior the past couple years, and would make the perfect complement to Letang if he keeps progressing as well as he has to this point.

That said, I'd prefer to hang onto all of them unless absolutely blown away.
Totally understand. I appreciate the insight!

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06-20-2013, 08:15 PM
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Jeffrey isn't an upgrade over Sobotka, there is no point in trading for him.

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06-20-2013, 08:30 PM
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Totally understand. I appreciate the insight!
No prob. It can be hard to gauge the value of proposals if you don't follow prospects rigorously.

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06-20-2013, 10:37 PM
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No from Pittsburgh. Stewart would be a nice project, but soon to be expensive - we can't be giving up any more 1sts, and we need a prospect like Harrington more than any in hockey.
Agree with this.

A big no for me.

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06-21-2013, 12:05 AM
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No prob. It can be hard to gauge the value of proposals if you don't follow prospects rigorously.
Yeah, you've got a great crop of D prospects in PIT - I really hope they all see significant NHL time in the near future. I watched Harrington and Maatta in last year's Memorial Cup, and Pouliot and Maatta in this year's Memorial Cup, but I'll admit I've never seen Dumoulin at all.

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Great trade for St. Louis, I do like Stewart though

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06-21-2013, 07:00 AM
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As a pens fan. YES please

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06-21-2013, 07:26 AM
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Interesting. Does Harrington project higher than Dumoulin, Maatta or Pouliot? I'm very curious to see how these 4 are slotted by Pens fans.
Harrington is 3rd behind Maata and Pouliot. May actually be ranked higher than Despres.

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Jeffrey can definitely be a solid 3C if given the chance. He'll never get that in Pittsburgh though.
He didnt get it because hes not good enough. This is a bad trade for STL, only upside i see for this is that it would give Pieterangelo a defensive responsible LH partner.

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06-21-2013, 08:13 AM
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Yeah, you've got a great crop of D prospects in PIT - I really hope they all see significant NHL time in the near future. I watched Harrington and Maatta in last year's Memorial Cup, and Pouliot and Maatta in this year's Memorial Cup, but I'll admit I've never seen Dumoulin at all.
You've seen Dumoulin about as much as I have, haha. A couple reg season AHL games early and then the streams dried up.

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06-21-2013, 08:17 AM
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A Blues fan made this? Really?
my exact reaction... pretty brutal for STL here

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06-21-2013, 09:01 AM
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He didnt get it because hes not good enough. This is a bad trade for STL, only upside i see for this is that it would give Pieterangelo a defensive responsible LH partner.
You mean someone like Jay Bouwmeester?

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06-21-2013, 09:10 AM
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You want to rid the Blues of what may possibly be their largest trade chip for:

A 2nd/3rd line center (in the future)
A #3-4 left defenseman
A late 1st round pick
A goaltender who routinely puts up less than a .900 save percentage in the playoffs.

In essence you want the Blues to trade a goal scorer (plus Halak) for future depth.
Depth...the strength the Blues are always listed at that has won them lo these many, might Stanley Cups.

Sounds good. Sign me up.
As a Penguin fan, I couldn't argue at all with anything that was said except one major issue?

Scott Harrington will not be
A #3-4 left defenseman

Since Morrow was traded and Letang could possibility be moved.

Harrington and Maatta were officially announced to be untouchables
Along with Bennett and Despres

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06-21-2013, 09:14 AM
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No from Pittsburgh. Stewart would be a nice project, but soon to be expensive - we can't be giving up any more 1sts, and we need a prospect like Harrington more than any in hockey.
Pretty much this. As much as I'd personally pay to see Fleury gone, we can't afford to deal another first rounder and Harrington is quite important for the future blueline. I'd probably counter with Kunitz and Fleury for Halak and Stewart.


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Interesting. Does Harrington project higher than Dumoulin, Maatta or Pouliot? I'm very curious to see how these 4 are slotted by Pens fans.
It probably depends on what happens with Letang. Their importance and where to slot them may change.

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06-21-2013, 09:33 AM
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PIT gets:
Jaroslav Halak
Chris Stewart

STL gets:
Marc-Andre Fleury
Dustin Jeffrey
Scott Harrington
PIT 2014 1st rd pick

I apologize if there has been enough "Stewart to the Pens" proposals already, but I thought I would try one that didn't involve asking for Bennett or Despres.

PIT seems to have Centers and D prospects (which STL needs), and STL has wingers (which PIT needs). Too many Blues fans get caught up trying to only deal Stewie for the "mythical #1C", whereas if a deal like this went down, that would give STL two 1sts to possibly use in a separate deal to land that 1C. At least, that was my thought...
If I am the Pens, I turn this down in a heartbeat. Fleury, despite his postseason problems the last 2 years is still a very good goaltender. The difference between him and Halak is not that big...Halak would not do much better playing in the Pens system ( yes, I think Halak is a product of the Blues D and system ) Stewart is nice, but I am not giving up a solid D prospect who is a future second pairing defensemen, a decent 3rd line winger and a 1st round pick for him.

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You mean someone like Jay Bouwmeester?
someone not making twice the amount hes really worth, is what i mean.

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06-21-2013, 10:27 AM
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thats really bad proposal

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06-21-2013, 10:31 AM
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Love Stewart and I think he'd be a great fit for the Pens but no for that package. Also as much as I don't have faith in Fleury I wouldn't have any for Halak either. Besides those 2 rounds of greatness with the Habs years ago he's been injured and very shaky since

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06-21-2013, 10:49 AM
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Love Stewart and I think he'd be a great fit for the Pens but no for that package. Also as much as I don't have faith in Fleury I wouldn't have any for Halak either. Besides those 2 rounds of greatness with the Habs years ago he's been injured and very shaky since
Not true, stats from 11-12:

Halak: 26-12-7; 1.97 GAA; .926 SV%; 6 SHO

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