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06-21-2013, 03:21 PM
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Apparently Wild are in the running for Bernier as well. I forgot that they could use someone like him. They can do very well with short goalies, as seen with Backstrom. Still wouldn't hate a Read for Bernier trade, even though Read might be hard to replace, especially for his price.

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06-21-2013, 03:22 PM
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3 teams are in the running for Jonathan Bernier. Kings are going to take the best offer from Maple Leafs, Flyers or Wild. #RDS
One of the best sources in hockey. This is why I don't really trust the Flyers insiders.

I still think Leafs might have the best offer, but Flyers won't back down especially for somebody that they covet like Bernier. Minnesota has the assets to have a better offer, too.

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06-21-2013, 03:32 PM
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06-21-2013, 03:34 PM
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Bernier/Mason would be great, but I hope we won't overpay too much.

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06-21-2013, 03:35 PM
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Some LA fans convinced me Read doesn't fit well there since he'll need a big raise next year.

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06-21-2013, 03:38 PM
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Some LA fans convinced me Read doesn't fit well there since he'll need a big raise next year.
Some think 3M for Read is too much. Just ****ing lol... He's a better player than half of their team.

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06-21-2013, 03:53 PM
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Read's gonna want $4 million if he has another 45+ point season. And LA has a lot of expensive forwards tied up already and need to resign Brown and King next year.

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06-21-2013, 03:55 PM
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Read's gonna want $4 million if he has another 45+ point season. And LA has a lot of expensive forwards tied up already and need to resign Brown and King next year.
King won't cost that much and I don't think Greene will be too expensive either. Brown will probably get about 5 million some, but even if the cap goes up, they'll have room for someone like Read.

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06-21-2013, 04:05 PM
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Do the Leafs really need Bernier?

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06-21-2013, 04:12 PM
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I would like Bernier, but I'm extremely skeptical about the cost.

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06-21-2013, 04:13 PM
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Do the Leafs really need Bernier?
That's what I was thinking. Wasn't Reimer playing pretty well last season?

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06-21-2013, 04:41 PM
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Some think 3M for Read is too much. Just ****ing lol... He's a better player than half of their team.
That's the Paul Holmgren way of dealing with the cap. $3 million is a problem since Quick's extension begins this upcoming season and Brown is due for an extension and raise. A number of RFAs also have to be re-signed, and Voynov just received a raise.

And if you think he's better than half the team, if you're talking the bottom 6, yeah, you're right. But as of right now, Brown/Kopitar/Williams/Richards/Carter are all better than him. All 5 of those guys play both ends of the ice like he does. Would he be a good fit on LW? I am not sure because of his size. He would be on the second line and Richards is already a pretty small guy so having two of them together might be a problem.

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06-21-2013, 04:42 PM
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That's what I was thinking. Wasn't Reimer playing pretty well last season?
His glove hand is bad and his rebound control is reminiscent of Leighton.

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06-21-2013, 05:04 PM
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King won't cost that much and I don't think Greene will be too expensive either. Brown will probably get about 5 million some, but even if the cap goes up, they'll have room for someone like Read.
Captain a team to the cup gets you more than 5 mill. Look at what some of these deals are...ridiculous.

I'm betting that the deals are just a bit higher in return than we think but not crazy high like our beat writers. I'm happy to trade read plus a second max. If they want more then dont do it. Especially because we may very well have our stater in mason

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06-21-2013, 05:47 PM
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Bernier is overhyped. Let some other team overpay for him. If the Kings dont want Read then **** em. They're missing out on a very versatile player.

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06-21-2013, 06:34 PM
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Hey Orange is better. Check your PM.

And I wouldn't mind Bernier. But if a 1st rd pick is involved then I object. Obviously better not send Couturier/Schenn/Voracek either.

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06-21-2013, 06:40 PM
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We need BobbyClarkeFan16 to make another phone call, it's been too boring on the rumor front these past couple days.

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06-21-2013, 07:17 PM
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That's what I was thinking. Wasn't Reimer playing pretty well last season?
if the leafs get bernier, I hope Reimer asks out. I wouldn't mind him, for the right price.

Honestly, I think this is moronic from Tor to be in on bernier.

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06-21-2013, 07:52 PM
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Let some other team trade for Bernier, then Offer Sheet him in a couple weeks anyway

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06-21-2013, 07:58 PM
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Honestly, I think this is moronic from Tor to be in on bernier.
I agree. It makes no sense.

Toronto should be looking for a Thomas or a Luongo/Bryzgalov post-buyout.

They should not have significant interest in Bernier realistically.

I'm getting the notion that LA is driving up the price through rumors.

I mean...how can you, with a straight face, ask for Voracek?

Have you ever gone to a bar, ordered a beer, and the when you pull out your wallet the bartender asked you for $100?

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06-21-2013, 08:03 PM
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I agree. It makes no sense.

Toronto should be looking for a Thomas or a Luongo/Bryzgalov post-buyout.

They should not have significant interest in Bernier realistically.

I'm getting the notion that LA is driving up the price through rumors.

I mean...how can you, with a straight face, ask for Voracek?

Have you ever gone to a bar, ordered a beer, and the when you pull out your wallet the bartender asked you for $100?
Are you taking Panaccio's comment about them asking for Voracek seriously or did you hear this somewhere else? There is no way they expect to get Voracek and they can't afford him, regardless. Panaccio's comment was not coming from anyone except himself thinking out loud.

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A lot of big name coaches getting moved around. Don't disappoint lavy!

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06-21-2013, 08:41 PM
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if the leafs get bernier, I hope Reimer asks out. I wouldn't mind him, for the right price.

Honestly, I think this is moronic from Tor to be in on bernier.
I don't get it either. I wouldn't give up on Reimer just yet because of one game.

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06-21-2013, 08:43 PM
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I don't get it either. I wouldn't give up on Reimer just yet because of one game.
If they do, might as well make an offer for Reimer ourselves.

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06-21-2013, 08:49 PM
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Bernier/Mason would be great, but I hope we won't overpay too much.
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