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Rangers Officially Introduce Alain Vigneault As Coach

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06-22-2013, 12:50 PM
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Talented puck carriers are sorely lacking on this team. There are a couple of decent ones, but it is a team weakness.
i always think staal has very good puck-lugging ability but didn't use it enough. he has big strides and can cover a lot of ground quickly. just a thought.

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06-22-2013, 12:56 PM
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Over the last 10 days or so I've spent a lot of car time listening to NHL radio on XM. Almost every guest (GMs, writers, players, front office people, etc) was asked about AV and how he would fit with the Rangers. Without exception they all used the adjectives to describe him: professional, accomplished, competent, able. Those were the qualities that came across during yesterday's conference....

He seem like the consummate professional.
i totally agree with this. great post. (i cut out most of it for the sake of space).

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06-22-2013, 12:58 PM
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There were pluses and minuses to all the candidates Sather considered.

Personally, I'm thrilled that Sather quickly identified the man he wanted, and boldly and aggressively pursued him.

Sometimes there is no benefit to conducting an extensive, time-consuming search. It's not as if he was considering unknowns. Information could perhaps best be gathered by consulting others. Sometimes an interview is not the best way to evaluate a potential coach. The interview of AV was the last, not the first, step in the process and obviously confirmed everything Sather knew or had gathered.

Don't we remember Trottier?

Whether or not AV works out remains to be seen, but I'm happy that Sather was decisive.

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06-22-2013, 02:03 PM
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There were pluses and minuses to all the candidates Sather considered.

Personally, I'm thrilled that Sather quickly identified the man he wanted, and boldly and aggressively pursued him.

Sometimes there is no benefit to conducting an extensive, time-consuming search. It's not as if he was considering unknowns. Information could perhaps best be gathered by consulting others. Sometimes an interview is not the best way to evaluate a potential coach. The interview of AV was the last, not the first, step in the process and obviously confirmed everything Sather knew or had gathered.

Don't we remember Trottier?

Whether or not AV works out remains to be seen, but I'm happy that Sather was decisive.
I feel bad for Trottier... did it really matter who the HC was then? He could be a good HC but we will never know.

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06-22-2013, 02:12 PM
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NHL teams play musical chairs with coaches. There is the occasional retirement, offset by a minor league coach breaking the glass ceiling.

To expect our club to approach this differently would be naive. And it isn't like Gernander was a candidate with what a disaster Connecticut has been. (Now the Hartford Wolf Pack again)

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06-22-2013, 02:15 PM
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NHL teams play musical chairs with coaches. There is the occasional retirement, offset by a minor league coach breaking the glass ceiling.

To expect our club to approach this differently would be naive. And it isn't like Gernander was a candidate with what a disaster Connecticut has been. (Now the Hartford Wolf Pack again)
I like the idea of James Patrick coaching Hartford. Mess would also be a good idea, but being as competitive as he is, I wonder if he'd be willing.

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06-22-2013, 02:47 PM
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I like the idea of James Patrick coaching Hartford. Mess would also be a good idea, but being as competitive as he is, I wonder if he'd be willing.
If he doesn't want to coach in the AHL then he probably doesn't want to be a head coach that badly. For him to expect to walk into an NHL Head Coaching position without any prior experience of any kind is an insult to every coach that has coached him. Great players CAN be great coaches but they all do something on a lower level or as an assistant before they even attempt it. Glen Sather having been a head coach himself probably just gave him the interview as a courtesy and was probably slightly annoyed with having to deal with that ******** at all.

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I like the idea of James Patrick coaching Hartford. Mess would also be a good idea, but being as competitive as he is, I wonder if he'd be willing.
Holy ****, I LOVE that idea. If Patrick doesn't go to Dallas with Ruff, I'd call Kenny G up to NYR for defense, and plug James Patrick in at Hartford to breed him for the future NYR HC job that is certain to open up (because after all, coaches have a shelf life. That isn't a shot at AV, he's just obviously not going to be around forever )

HC - AV
AC - Brown/Bowness (who went to TB again? I always forget)
AC - Gernander

Seriously, sign me up for that all day.

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Regardless of how much AV contributed positively or negatively to the Canucks winning a Presidents trophy is more impressive than winning a Stanley Cup.
Yeah, 1992 was a much better year than 1994.

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Holy ****, I LOVE that idea. If Patrick doesn't go to Dallas with Ruff, I'd call Kenny G up to NYR for defense, and plug James Patrick in at Hartford to breed him for the future NYR HC job that is certain to open up (because after all, coaches have a shelf life. That isn't a shot at AV, he's just obviously not going to be around forever )

HC - AV
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AC - Gernander

Seriously, sign me up for that all day.
Bowness went to Tampa. Gernander stinks.

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06-22-2013, 05:26 PM
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Yeah, 1992 was a much better year than 1994.
Being the best team out of 30 over an 82 game stretch is more impressive than winning the cup. He never said it was better.

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Being the best team out of 30 over an 82 game stretch is more impressive than winning the cup. He never said it was better.
Not really. You can pad those win stats playing against teams that suck. That **** flies right out the window come playoff time.

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Any of you see that thing about sleep study that Alain had his players do?

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Not really. You can pad those win stats playing against teams that suck. That **** flies right out the window come playoff time.
Not to mention feasting on the worst division in hockey for years.

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never understood the eakins love. He's great, the next great coach etc. but a bigger risk than AV and no NHL experience and less familiarity with players, teams, NHL oriented details and just the lack of experience in RS and PO... he might be great but he's not a win now coach based on his experience. There's the best head coach available (which lots of people think he's better than AV) and then there's the right man for the job. There's a reason why EDM signed him, why he signed with EDM.

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Being the best team out of 30 over an 82 game stretch is more impressive than winning the cup. He never said it was better.
Still disagree. There's only one real prize in hockey. One team wins each year.


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Any of you see that thing about sleep study that Alain had his players do?
Don't think the players were personally involved...

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And he talked in detail about how with the Canucks he would use the services of a sleep doctor to determine the Canucks’ heavy travel schedule. Boiled down: Vigneault said people, certainly players, operate best when their energy is at least 90 percent of capacity, which can be charted. Essentially, the Canucks threw all sorts of data into a computer to chart this stuff, then determined the best time to travel.
http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/r...ain_vigneault/

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The video I watched had some guys talking about how it actually made sense

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The video I watched had some guys talking about how it actually made sense
I wasn't suggesting it didn't make sense--I actually don't need a computer and a bunch of experts to tell me that most people function better with a full night's sleep. But, changing travel times in the NHL so players can function better is innovative. I guess.

Honestly, I'm more interested in what happens on the ice and how many players get traded because they are not AV's type of player.

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Being the best team out of 30 over an 82 game stretch is more impressive than winning the cup. He never said it was better.
This isn't baseball. Winning in the playoffs in the NHL is actually an accomplishment.

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Yeah, winning the President's Trophy is so much better. I'm sure Pens fans are just giddy for their next amazing regular season and February Cup followed by a postseason meltdown. :

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I seriously can't believe this is being said.

Its irrelevant anyway. Torts took us to #1 in East last season. As far as I'm concerned thats just as good as winning the presidents trophy..

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Yeah, winning the President's Trophy is so much better. I'm sure Pens fans are just giddy for their next amazing regular season and February Cup followed by a postseason meltdown. :
Lot of families affected.


President's trophy is peanut shavings compared to the cup

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