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06-23-2013, 01:42 AM
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Leafs Off season that will never happen even though it should


Forwards

James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Nathan Mackinnon ($3.750m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)

Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($3.500m) / David Clarkson ($4.250m)

Jerry D'Amigo ($1.083m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Mason Raymond ($2.000m)

Frazer McLaren ($0.696m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Colton Orr ($0.925m)

Carter Ashton ($1.040m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m) / Carl Gunnarsson ($3.000m)

Jake Gardiner ($1.117m) / Niklas Hjalmarsson ($3.500m)

Morgan Rielly ($1.744m) / Griffin Reinhart ($3.244m)

Mark Fraser ($0.660m) /


GOALTENDERS

James Reimer ($1.800m)
Jonathan Bernier ($2.500m)

Rick DiPietro ($4.500m) (BURIED UNTIL AMNESTY)

OTHER
Buyout: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)
Buyout: Colby Armstrong ($1.000m)
Buyout: Mikhail Grabovski ($0.000m)
Buyout: Mike Komisarek ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,583,250; BONUSES: $3,912,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $629,250

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Liles for DET 3rd round pick

Kulemin for Jon Bernier

Colborne+2014 1st round pick for Bolland+Hjalmarsson

Franson+Frattin for 5th overall

Komisarek+2013 2nd round pick for Dipietro+Reinhart+13th overall

Scrivens+13th overall+21st overall for 7th overall

5th overall+7th overall+Bozak's rights for 1st overall

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Sign Clarkson 4 mil/year

Sign Raymond 2 mil/year

Draft Mackinnon 1st overall

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06-23-2013, 04:09 AM
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Leafs Off season that will never happen even though it should


Franson+Frattin for 5th overall
If Jim Rutherford took this offer for Carolina I would have to think Hurricanes fans wouldn't let him ever step foot in either of the Carolinas again.

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06-23-2013, 07:57 AM
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Really?

What do you mean really?
Yes, Really - it would be amazing to get a player such as McDavid. I didn't say I wish us to tank to get it, or do a crazy trade. Just that it would be really, super amazing if we somehow got that player.

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We could finish 9th get lucky an win the lottery... Would never happen bit man would I cry. It would be like living in a world as a slave with no chance to get out. Then a crazy flying monkey assinates the evil dictator slave owner. It would be the biggest wave of happiness ever. Hell we deserve it after that.... Loss.

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06-23-2013, 08:21 AM
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I hope Sunday lives up to the hype of being a busy trade day.

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06-23-2013, 09:01 AM
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He was fine, but easily replaced.
disagree, I think he's a important piece of the defence, stay at home D man that is physically imposing, a keeper for sure.

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06-23-2013, 09:30 AM
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I hope Sunday lives up to the hype of being a busy trade day.
Today is supposed to be busy trade day? Where did you hear that. And why today?

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06-23-2013, 09:41 AM
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Today is supposed to be busy trade day? Where did you hear that. And why today?
NEXT Sunday

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06-23-2013, 09:53 AM
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NEXT Sunday
oh. ok lol

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06-23-2013, 10:01 AM
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sign scuderi
sign weiss
sign clarkson
sign mason raymond
frattin for bernier
grabo for draft pick
liles for draft pick
komisarek bought out
buyout dipietro for 15th plus nino

Lupul Weiss kessel
jvr kadri raymond
kuilemin nino clarkson
orr mclement maclaren

Phaneuf Scuderi
Franson Gardiner
Gunnarsson Rielly
Fraser

reimer
bernier

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06-23-2013, 10:37 AM
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So what teams would be interested in Bernier, considering that he has been guaranteed starting minutes?

Teams that need a starting goalie:

New York Isles

Teams that might need a starting goalie because current goalie is 35+ and done soon:

New Jersey Devils (Brodeur)
Calgary Flames (Kipper)
Minnesota (Backstrom)

Teams that might need a starting goalie because they might consider trading/buying out the one that they currently have for various reasons:

Pittsburgh (Fleury - Lost a step, bad playoffs)
Buffalo (Miller - seems to be some conflict with the organization)
Philly (Bryzgalov - Crazy, overpaid and inconsistent)
Phoenix (Smith - if he walks)

Teams that don't really have an established starter, but have young talent that could become that:

Tampa (Lindback, Bishop)
Florida (Markstrom)

So, who would we most likely flip him to if that was the plan?

I'd say:

1. New York Isles (part of Dipietro trade)
2. New Jersey (part of trade for Clarkson's rights)
3. Philly (part of trade for Bryz [buyout])
4. Phoenix (part of trade for 12th overall)
5. Tampa (part of trade for Vinny + 3rd overall)

Personally, I'm feeling like we flip him to either New York or Phoenix.

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06-23-2013, 10:54 AM
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Again, I am starting to feel that this year is a year Leafs may truly move up to pick, whether it is #7 or later is the question?

I see some storm clouds on the horizon and really this is exciting if Nonis can get some action.

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06-23-2013, 11:13 AM
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disagree, I think he's a important piece of the defence, stay at home D man that is physically imposing, a keeper for sure.
Didn't say he was not good, I said he was easy to replace, and he is.

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06-23-2013, 11:24 AM
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One guy I keep hearing rumors about is Kevin Bieksa out of Vancouver. Would you guys have any interest in him?

I think he's the exact type of Dman we need to take a bit of the burden off of Phaneuf and make our D a really great group.

It's hard to tell what type of return he would get, as maybe it's a bit lower than I would have thought based on the rumors, but I would deal our 1st++ for him. What would you guys think it might take?
Bieksa would be a perfect fit and i have said that for months!

He is a true #2 Dman that is a RHS and plays his strong side. He is exactly what Dion needs in a partner!

I would give up Frattin + 2nd for him but that's the max.

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06-23-2013, 11:26 AM
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I heard a rumor that the Oilers are asking for Gunner + 21 or Gardiner for the 7th Overall

Anybody hear the same?

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Thank-you

I am sick and tired of ppl using the excuse of "well he was stuck on the third lime" BS

Grabo is just not a very good player
I like him. His last 3 years with the Leafs in which he played at least 70 games he scored 20...29 and 23 goals while killing penalties.He's a great skater and his effort level has always been high except for portions of this year which may or may not be related to his role on the team and/or his stomach problems. He's a good second line center when given the proper wingers . He is overpaid however (which isnt his fault...you'll always take what you can get...wouldnt we?). I'd like him at 3.5 to 4 mil in this salary cap world.

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Bieksa would be a perfect fit and i have said that for months!

He is a true #2 Dman that is a RHS and plays his strong side. He is exactly what Dion needs in a partner!

I would give up Frattin + 2nd for him but that's the max.
It would require more than that I would think. I'd be willing to move it up to a 1st and add a weaker prospect.

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06-23-2013, 11:32 AM
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Just to comment above, there is no way Kadri gets 3.9-4M unless its on a 3+ year deal. You have to remember he is an RFA, teams are squeezing all their RFA's in terms of contract (subban, Duchene). You have to also remember it was a shortened season, in which he started to tail off towards the end.

I think realistically, he takes 3-3.25M on a two year deal
Sounds about right.

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06-23-2013, 11:42 AM
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Four Step Goalie Shuffle:

1. Trade Frattin, Scrivens + 3rd to LA for Bernier

2. Trade Komisarek + Bernier to NYIsles for Dipietro (buyout), 15th overall, Matt Martin, Reinhart and Nino

3. Trade Reimer, Rights to Gunnarsson + 21st overall to Edmonton for 7th + Rights to Ryan Jones.

4. Trade Nino to Vancouver for Luongo + Rights to Tanev


OUT: Frattin, Reimer, Scrivens, Liles, Komisarek, 3rd 2013 and 2nd 2014
IN: 7th (Monahan), 15th (whoever drops), Martin, Jones, Reinhart, Luongo, Tanev.

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I heard a rumor that the Oilers are asking for Gunner + 21 or Gardiner for the 7th Overall

Anybody hear the same?
I can't see oilers at all interested in gunner + 21 for 7. If they were, I would jump on that so fast. Would have to be more going oilers way.

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Four Step Goalie Shuffle:

1. Trade Frattin, Scrivens + 3rd to LA for Bernier

2. Trade Komisarek + Bernier to NYIsles for Dipietro (buyout), 15th overall, Matt Martin, Reinhart and Nino

3. Trade Reimer, Rights to Gunnarsson + 15th overall to Edmonton for 7th.

4. Trade Nino to Vancouver for Luongo + Rights to Tanev


OUT: Frattin, Reimer, Scrivens, Liles, Komisarek, 3rd 2013 and 2nd 2014
IN: 7th (Monahan), Martin, Reinhart, Luongo, Tanev.
That Edmonton trade sucks for us. That's too much just to move up from 15th to 7th.

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I heard a rumor that the Oilers are asking for Gunner + 21 or Gardiner for the 7th Overall

Anybody hear the same?
I would be all over Gunnar +21st

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Ooh we got Bernier for scrivens, frattins and a second rounder

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Didn't say he was not good, I said he was easy to replace, and he is.
I disagree. We haven't had a tough, physical defenceman like him in a long time.He may be slow but used properly as he was he was very effective in my opinion.A team needs a blend of different types of forwards and defencemen.He has his place and we have a fighter (That Carlyle covets) who can actually play. Hopefully players like Fraser and other are signalling the end of "strictly goons" who can't play the game.

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Looking at the Kings entire organization I think they should have more interest in adding another Dman in a trade for Bernier then a winger like Frattin.

They played 4 Dmen over 20 minutes in the playoffs. Of those 4, Voynov and Doughty will be there for years. But the others are a different story with Scuderi being a UFA this year and even he returns he's 35. Regehr is 33 and signed for 2 more years. There D prospect pool isn't anything special. They did have significant injuries to Mitchell and Greene but both of them are UFAs at the end of the year. Mitchell is also 36.

Gunnarson who won't ever make a big cap hit and would fit in as a 20 minute a night Dman for years seems like someone they should want more then a winger like Frattin.

If we sign Paul Ranger who could fill Gunnars spot on the roster I propose the following deal:

Gunnarson

for

Bernier
Greene (cap purposes and could play on our 3rd pair to buy a year of time till Rielly, Percy, Finn, Blacker are that much more developed)

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