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06-23-2013, 08:01 AM
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I know sens fans will hate me

Colorado
Karlsson

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1st overall
1st in 2014

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06-23-2013, 08:02 AM
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1st overall
1st in 2014
I don't know about hate. Feel sorry for you maybe.

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Okay.

But WHY?

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06-23-2013, 08:10 AM
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Like most trade proposals with the word "blockbuster" in the title, this is unrealistic and illogical.

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06-23-2013, 08:51 AM
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If you're a Sens fan, why on Earth would you even think of making a proposal involving Karlsson? I could see other team's fans trying to trade for him, but why on Earth would you trade him for anything? Are you wanting to draft Seth Jones, who, even if he hits his ultimate upside, may not amount to what Karlsson already is?

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06-23-2013, 08:57 AM
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If you're a Sens fan, why on Earth would you even think of making a proposal involving Karlsson? I could see other team's fans trying to trade for him, but why on Earth would you trade him for anything? Are you wanting to draft Seth Jones, who, even if he hits his ultimate upside, may not amount to what Karlsson already is?
Ottawa could pick MacKinnon and then trade someone for Letang. I think this would make the team better...

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06-23-2013, 09:02 AM
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It's just doesn't make any sense.

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The Avalanche are trying to build their defense they wouldnt give up EJ, Mackinnon, and next years first overall, for Karlsson.

Karlsson is a fantastic player and I'd love to have him on the avs but youre not going to get our best defenseman in the deal when we are weak defensively already.

I could see, Cowen for some forwards that fit the sens needs and some prospect D and maybe some picks, but karlsson isn't leaving ottawa anytime soon.

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06-23-2013, 09:15 AM
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I know sens fans will hate me

Colorado
Karlsson

Ottawa
Johnson
1st overall
1st in 2014
There are several reason this trade proposal is terrible

1. The Senators would never move Karlsson under any circumstance.

2. That is massive overpayment on the Av's side, especially since his injury

3. You don't see stars moved hardly ever unless they want out, Karlsson will be a Senator for a long long time

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Hurts us more than helps us in the long run most likely. I've said the samething about people wanting Letang. We need to add to our blueline without subtracting EJ from our blueline and preferably also Barrie, Elliott or Siemens.

If Sens acquired a better first round pick I'd move down in the draft for Cowen, but not as far as the late 10's or early 20's. More like 8th-12th range.

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06-23-2013, 09:31 AM
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The Avalanche have 1 NHL defenseman; Erik Johnson. This proposal would still leave them with 1 NHL defenseman and take their #1 overall pick. The AV's do not want Jones, he's a defenseman.
They are building a team of superior top 6 forwards and an
AHL defense. Let's see how that works for them.

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06-23-2013, 09:39 AM
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Turris/Zibanejad + Cowen + #17 for #1 overall would be my hope in a return, but doubt the Avs would move down that low, nor the Sens pay that price for MacKinnon.

Karlsson seems like the least available Senator.

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06-23-2013, 09:47 AM
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Nope. Johnson is awful

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The Avalanche have 1 NHL defenseman; Erik Johnson. This proposal would still leave them with 1 NHL defenseman and take their #1 overall pick. The AV's do not want Jones, he's a defenseman.
They are building a team of superior top 6 forwards and an
AHL defense. Let's see how that works for them.
Management doesn't want Jones because they don't believe he is the bpa.

I don't know if i would do this. Although Karlsson is an amazing player but I think this is just overpayment for him. But I completely understand why Sens wouldn't do this.. They are going to want an already elite player in return, not a potentially elite player in Mackinnon, Jones, drouin etc..

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I had a feeling it would involve Karlsson

Thanks but no thanks

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Colorado hangs up.

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06-23-2013, 10:26 AM
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Ottawa gets fleeced.

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06-23-2013, 10:29 AM
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There is a large difference between Karlsson and Johnson, but that difference isn't worth a possible franchise player in MacKinnon plus next years first. Colorado becomes better in the short term, but much worse in the long run.

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06-23-2013, 10:32 AM
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I understand where you are coming but if Ottawa wanted to get younger they wouldn't give up Karlsson. They would give up Spezza in any deal to acquire someone like Mackinnon.

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06-23-2013, 10:48 AM
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The Avalanche have 1 NHL defenseman; Erik Johnson. This proposal would still leave them with 1 NHL defenseman and take their #1 overall pick. The AV's do not want Jones, he's a defenseman.
They are building a team of superior top 6 forwards and an
AHL defense. Let's see how that works for them.
I agree. While not on the trade, but the fact that they have ONE NHL defenceman on their team but they don't want an elite Dman in Jones?

As a Panther fan, I hope they take whomever is not named Mackinnon

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06-23-2013, 10:52 AM
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As an Avs fan, I really hate it.

1st overall+ for Karlsson is fairish value (not saying either team would do it)

But to add another potential top 5 pick and a top pairing defender? I might be a homer, but I want Malkin or Crosby back for this type of package

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Terrible for the Avs.

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I agree. While not on the trade, but the fact that they have ONE NHL defenceman on their team but they don't want an elite Dman in Jones?

As a Panther fan, I hope they take whomever is not named Mackinnon
I really think they are going to end up taking MacKinnon if they draft first overall.

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1st overall
1st in 2014
Hate is such a strong word. We don't hate you, just the propsal, a respectful "No thank you" from the Senators side.

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