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10-16-2006, 11:57 AM
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Yeah, but 4 of his 5 points are not the result of 4th line duty. Instead, they were gotten on the power play. Thus, as a 4th liner, he only has one point, not 5.
Either way, he's productive... If he's used as a PP specialist or as a ES guy..he's still been on the boards. Maybe Dallas have just finally found a way to use the guy without risk.

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10-16-2006, 11:58 AM
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The problem is not Huet or our goaltending at all. The problem is our offense. We're simply not scoring goals. The objective for Bob Gainey this year was to bolster his offense and it really doesn't seem like that has happened (although he tried). Bulis had 20 goals last year and Zednik had 16. Will Samsonov and Johnson account for 36 goals this year? I'm not so sure. And I'm not saying I was sad to see Bulis and Zednik go either. It was their time.

Other than the trades to swap forwards our Habs are banking on the youngsters to produce (Latendresse, Kostitsyn, Perezhogin, etc.) . I like Perezhogin, but he's just not meshing, much like last year.

It's strange to see the way our Habs played vs Buffalo and how they skated with them all game, but haven't looked the part since (even in their wins). The new NHL should be ripe for our speedy Habs. I look at the scores every night and I see teams killing each other 6-2, 7-3, etc. and I wonder why can't my Habs score 6 or 7 goals. It doesn't seem to be a problem for a heck of a lot of teams thus far. Aside from the 4 goals vs Buffalo the Habs score 2 vs the leafs plus the SO. They score 3 vs Philly including the empty netter and only 2 vs the Sens. Where's the finish?

Does anyone share my concern?

So far this year;

Zednik - 0 goals
Bulis - 0 goals

Johnson - 1 goal
Samsonov - 1 goal

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10-16-2006, 12:00 PM
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I miss Ribs!

I watch the Dallas-Anaheim game last night. He's used mostly on the PP but he looked great. Skates a lot better then he ever did. I understand we needed a dman and I like what Niinimaa brings the team but I was expecting a great year from Ribiero...

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10-16-2006, 12:02 PM
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Either way, he's productive... If he's used as a PP specialist or as a ES guy..he's still been on the boards. Maybe Dallas have just finally found a way to use the guy without risk.
I wasn't denying that he was productive, just the way it was stated made it look like he was playing outstanding hockey on the 4th line.

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10-16-2006, 01:17 PM
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I wasn't denying that he was productive, just the way it was stated made it look like he was playing outstanding hockey on the 4th line.
I was merely stating that he was productive even if he was on the 4th line. He might very well be more productive on the 2nd, who knows. But he's being utilized fairly well thus far...be interesting to see what Dallas does with him for the rest of the season.

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10-16-2006, 01:19 PM
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Ribeiro is the champ at secondary power play assists. He'll rack up tons of those, no doubt.

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10-16-2006, 01:27 PM
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I was merely stating that he was productive even if he was on the 4th line. He might very well be more productive on the 2nd, who knows. But he's being utilized fairly well thus far...be interesting to see what Dallas does with him for the rest of the season.

Yes, it will be interesting.

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10-16-2006, 05:35 PM
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Ribeiro is the champ at secondary power play assists. He'll rack up tons of those, no doubt.
He was alo the champ pointer of the Habs 2 seasons ago . I suppose that all of his 65 points were secondary power play assists .

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10-16-2006, 05:38 PM
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I was merely stating that he was productive even if he was on the 4th line. He might very well be more productive on the 2nd, who knows. But he's being utilized fairly well thus far...be interesting to see what Dallas does with him for the rest of the season.
A Turgeon 's clone ? few minutes on 3-4 th lines .

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10-16-2006, 09:44 PM
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This is what I posted on another thread.

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The Habs would be in really rough shape without Niinimaa, whereas Ribeiro's absence hasn't hurt them. He doesn't seem to be compatible with Kovalev and Samsonov. Playing in Dallas, he has a 44% faceoff percentage, so his line's opponents would have the puck 56% of the time. Since those three aren't the greatest defenders, that would have put the Habs at a disadvantage when Ribeiro lost a faceoff.

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10-16-2006, 09:54 PM
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This is what I posted on another thread.
I agree.....and one more thing...can you please change your name to something I can pronounce. Gosh! Who names their kid Truffeldeck.

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10-16-2006, 10:32 PM
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I agree.....and one more thing...can you please change your name to something I can pronounce. Gosh! Who names their kid Truffeldeck.

I already changed it in the interests of simplication ... from Carlyle's Diogenes Teufelsdrockh, a character in his Sartor Resartus. Maybe I should just have used Diogenes.

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10-16-2006, 11:06 PM
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This is what I posted on another thread.
You write that he didn't seem compatible with Sammy or Kovy...How do you figure that Plekanec is more? 1 pt in 4 games... Sammy and Kovy imo need to be seperated...they are too much of the same player. I don't mind them so much on the PP cuz they have breathing room to play with, but ES they haven't looked very good at all.

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You write that he didn't seem compatible with Sammy or Kovy...How do you figure that Plekanec is more? 1 pt in 4 games... Sammy and Kovy imo need to be seperated...they are too much of the same player. I don't mind them so much on the PP cuz they have breathing room to play with, but ES they haven't looked very good at all.
What does ES mean?

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10-16-2006, 11:57 PM
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My God !
I can't believe some of you guys.

The ofence does not score, the defence is frigile, the Goalies are lucky.
Player X looks like he is hurt, quick trade away anything to get a replacement.

I just cant believe some of you guys!!!

"the sky is falling, the Habs are not perfect"
i agree with u. although we definitely have holes, why shred the team when we do not even have a regulation loss yet. im sure we will have plenty of time to disect the team once a losing streak occurs, but for now just chill out

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10-17-2006, 07:18 AM
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This is what I posted on another thread.
Sure... Because face offs are all that matter in hockey and when you loose the face off, you don't have the puck until the next one...

Has anyone here at least seen the last 2 Dallas games? Ribiero was excellent and created a lot of scoring chances for his teamates. Kovalev would love to have him as his centerman.

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10-17-2006, 07:33 AM
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What does ES mean?
I think Even Strength

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Sure... Because face offs are all that matter in hockey and when you loose the face off, you don't have the puck until the next one...

Has anyone here at least seen the last 2 Dallas games? Ribiero was excellent and created a lot of scoring chances for his teamates. Kovalev would love to have him as his centerman.
Loosing face offs cost us the series vs the canes last years. Loosing one might not hurt you, but if you loose 4,5,6 face offs it is going to make a diference at the end of the game. Brindamour had are number in that dipartment last year and man it cost us big time. If you win a face off on the offensive zone that could most of the time turn into a scoring chance. So yes faceoffs are an important part of the game. Also shifts last what, 50,60 seconds. By winning a faceoff you can most likely control the paste of the shift wich is important especialy when the other team top line is on the ice. You win a faceoff at centre, pas it back to your defense and you control the play for 30 seconds, thats 30 seconds the other team top scorers dosent have control of the shift.


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