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06-24-2013, 06:33 AM
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Leafs land Bernier, but Flyers reportedly offered Matt Read

Leafs land Bernier, but Flyers reportedly offered Matt Read



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The Flyers were reportedly interested in Bernier, and according to ESPN’s Pierre LeBrun the team was willing to give up forward Matt Read.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/p...Matt-Read.html

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I stopped reading after the writer called Jonathan Bernier an elite goaltender.

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I stopped reading after the writer called Jonathan Bernier an elite goaltender.
the moment a player gets traded to Toronto, he becomes elite

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Leafs land Bernier, but Flyers reportedly offered Matt Read





http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/p...Matt-Read.html


>>>>I believe that Philadelphia and another team were hard in the mix as well at the end along with Toronto. Flyers offering Matt Read...

— Pierre LeBrun (@Real_ESPNLeBrun) June 23, 2013<<<<


Starts it off with, (I believe) and ends it with (Flyers offering Matt Read) Thats when I stop reading article.

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the moment a player gets traded to Toronto, he becomes elite
There are only 2 types of players that Toronto has/wants. They are as follows:

1) Elite
2) Bad-Decent

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06-24-2013, 08:56 AM
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Queue the rumors that Bernier went to kings management and told them he wanted to be a leaf

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Queue the rumors that Bernier went to kings management and told them he wanted to be a leaf
he has roots in Toronto obviously

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he has roots in Toronto obviously
Well considering everyone ever has roots in Toronto and every player wants to play for the leafs, it's not surprising.

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Thank goodness we didn't overpay and go for this too aggressively.

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I would have liked to have gotten Bernier, but I didn't want to pay the price. I also didn't want to go into the season with two unprovens.

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I would have liked to have gotten Bernier, but I didn't want to pay the price. I also didn't want to go into the season with two unprovens.
This is one of the many things that fall into the category of "indifferent" for me that has been talked about this offseason. I would have given up a similar package to get Bernier (which would have included giving up Read), but I am not disappointed that we missed out on him.

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So they wanted more than Read? Yeah, **** that.

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Didn't we all know this already?

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I would have tried to get the deal done for Bernier mainly because I don't want to lose Read for nothing after the season. Hopefully we re-sign him to a fair contract that makes everyone happy.

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I would have tried to get the deal done for Bernier mainly because I don't want to lose Read for nothing after the season. Hopefully we re-sign him to a fair contract that makes everyone happy.
Or he could be packed for another 1st

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Calgary and Columbus have 1sts to spare, but I don't really want to trade with CBJ now they're in the division.

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The only way I see Read signing at a reasonable number is extending him for say 5 years. We can back load the contract or front load it somewhat.

5 year deal for 19 million. Gives him more guaranteed over the tenure while protecting himself fro injuries. Pretty much what every agent and player have to discuss when signing short term or long term deals. That deal would give him a 3.8 average on the cap. I could see us being able to fit that under our cap. Especially after this year when we can hopefully put some ELC contracts on defense and/or offense.

Also I have said before, if you look to get a 1st for Read, look no further than Calgary. They love him and were trying to sign him with us.

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Dissapointed they didnt land Bernier but glad Holmgren didnt overpay. im guessing Read and the 11th OV would of likely got it done. Oh well, time to move on. Not crazy about paying that price for Halak either.

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Dissapointed they didnt land Bernier but glad Holmgren didnt overpay. im guessing Read and the 11th OV would of likely got it done. Oh well, time to move on. Not crazy about paying that price for Halak either.
Halak won't cost much at all. I honestly see them trading Elliot to Phoenix actually. I have come to realize there is two fan bases that are tough to deal with here(not named Toronto). Those two are Anaheim and St Louis. Halak wasn't even their starter in the playoffs, but they want good value back for him? He had a problem with Hitch also. They literally might just trade him to get him out of the organization.

Hiller would also be another option, but again he is on a tough fanbase to have talks with. Hiller for Mez+conditional 3nd in 2014(conditional only if Mez plays 65-70 games). I would target Hiller first above all, but then the door is wide open.

Also thank god only GM's have to make deals and not fan bases on here, because it is extremely funny how people over rate their own players and especially prospects. This is not excluding our fan base either. Best case example of this is Zucker in Minny.

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Overall happy we didn't trade a lot for bernier but can anyone tell me how what Toronto paid compared to read? I'm not familiar with fratin.

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Overall happy we didn't trade a lot for bernier but can anyone tell me how what Toronto paid compared to read? I'm not familiar with fratin.
Read>Frattin and Scrivens was a throw-in.

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Dissapointed they didnt land Bernier but glad Holmgren didnt overpay. im guessing Read and the 11th OV would of likely got it done. Oh well, time to move on. Not crazy about paying that price for Halak either.
There would have been a riot if he traded Read and the 11th.

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the moment a player gets traded to Toronto, he becomes elite
I thought it was just 'lite'.

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Halak won't cost much at all. I honestly see them trading Elliot to Phoenix actually. I have come to realize there is two fan bases that are tough to deal with here(not named Toronto). Those two are Anaheim and St Louis. Halak wasn't even their starter in the playoffs, but they want good value back for him? He had a problem with Hitch also. They literally might just trade him to get him out of the organization.

Hiller would also be another option, but again he is on a tough fanbase to have talks with. Hiller for Mez+conditional 3nd in 2014(conditional only if Mez plays 65-70 games). I would target Hiller first above all, but then the door is wide open.

Also thank god only GM's have to make deals and not fan bases on here, because it is extremely funny how people over rate their own players and especially prospects. This is not excluding our fan base either. Best case example of this is Zucker in Minny.

He may not, but I am not sure if I want Halak just to rid ourselves of Bryzgalov. While I do want Bryz to be shown the door I would rather get a more stable option in goal. Getting Halak would mean we could be looking for 2 goaltenders if Mason doesnt work out and Halak decides to bolt next summer.

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There would have been a riot if he traded Read and the 11th.
I would of done Read and the 41st actually. I am guessing LA wanted the forward back they could have some control over. Frattin will be a RFA next summer, Read a UFA.
I still feel they should deal Read as I am not confident they can get him resigned next summer.

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Read>Frattin and Scrivens was a throw-in.
Scrivens was more than just a throw in, he is the capable backup that LA wanted. And that the Flyers didn't have to offer.

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