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06-23-2013, 09:52 PM
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Yea, thats the reason to hand out multi-year contracts
It's one of them, yeah.

When you have a young offensive minded player, if he's willing to sign long term at a low cap hit, you do it.

If he doesn't make it, he'll terminate and go to Russia. If he does, you have the chance of a guy scoring 60 points for you in year three making pennies on the dollar.

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It's one of them, yeah.

When you have a young offensive minded player, if he's willing to sign long term at a low cap hit, you do it.

If he doesn't make it, he'll terminate and go to Russia. If he does, you have the chance of a guy scoring 60 points for you in year three making pennies on the dollar.
Agreed, great low risk / high reward gamble.

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I thought it showed something that he played an entire KHL season plus part of their playoffs, and then came here and played for a month plus 2 rounds.
KHL, while the 2nd best league in the world, is not as competitive, nor as physical, as the NHL. If anything is going to do him in here, it's the tougher game combined with the smaller ice surface. So, no... that didn't show anything.

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"It's not the size of the fighter, but the size of the fight he will bring".
If he ends up in the 35-41 points range I'm down with that..

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Good!

He will be cheap with high upside and little downside.

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06-24-2013, 07:07 AM
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It's one of them, yeah.

When you have a young offensive minded player, if he's willing to sign long term at a low cap hit, you do it.

If he doesn't make it, he'll terminate and go to Russia. If he does, you have the chance of a guy scoring 60 points for you in year three making pennies on the dollar.
The only way Zuccarello scores 60 points in the NHL is if hes attached at the hip with an elite center, and/or hes playing way too many minutes.

To me, he is not a piece to build around, and giving him more than 2 years is silly.

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06-24-2013, 07:17 AM
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I believe his effort in the PO made this happen. A lot of people thought he would fall through in th PO with all the intensity and physical play. But what do you know, he finished second in points for the Rangers......

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Yeah, I don't understand why people are saying Zuccarello shouldn't be a key piece of the team. He outperformed Nash and Callahan in the playoffs.

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06-24-2013, 07:32 AM
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Yeah, I don't understand why people are saying Zuccarello shouldn't be a key piece of the team. He outperformed Nash and Callahan in the playoffs.
If thats your point, I completely understand why you dont understand

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That 1/3 is the offseason.
Contract starts July 1st. 2/3 of the season will bring him to about March 1st before we need to re-sign him.

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The only way Zuccarello scores 60 points in the NHL is if hes attached at the hip with an elite center, and/or hes playing way too many minutes.

To me, he is not a piece to build around, and giving him more than 2 years is silly.
You don't have to be a "piece to build around" to deserve more than a 2 year contract. We're not talking about giving him a 7 year contract with big $$ and expecting him to lead the team or something.

Complaining about a 3 year deal for Zuccarello with relatively low money involved is silly and just another example of this board looking for anything at all to complain about no matter how ridiculous. The downside is so small with this that it's just not worth quibbling over. If they decide his cap hit is making it hard to sign other players, I'm sure another team would take him in a trade

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If his deal is relatively cheap, I wouldn't have a problem with a three year contract. If he works out, then you've got a bargain; if not, it shouldn't be hard to get rid of him. There's very minimal risk, and a potentially nice reward.

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If his deal is relatively cheap, I wouldn't have a problem with a three year contract. If he works out, then you've got a bargain; if not, it shouldn't be hard to get rid of him. There's very minimal risk, and a potentially nice reward.
This is my thought as well. If he doesn't work out, there is a nice trade chip for a team looking for a spark.

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The only way Zuccarello scores 60 points in the NHL is if hes attached at the hip with an elite center, and/or hes playing way too many minutes.

To me, he is not a piece to build around, and giving him more than 2 years is silly.
dont worry..when zucc is scoring i wont rub it in your face

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The only way Zuccarello scores 60 points in the NHL is if hes attached at the hip with an elite center, and/or hes playing way too many minutes.

To me, he is not a piece to build around, and giving him more than 2 years is silly.
If he becomes the PA Parenteau to Stepan's Tavares/Duchene, I'll be just fine and dandy with the contract. Playing with players can boost stats, but chemistry is important.

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If he becomes the PA Parenteau to Stepan's Tavares/Duchene, I'll be just fine and dandy with the contract. Playing with players can boost stats, but chemistry is important.
I think its more likely hes a poor man's Parenteau to accompany Stepan, the poor man's Tavares.

Sure sounds like just another example of inflated expectations for this personnel. If that combo doesnt produce 140+ points combined, will that be the coach's fault?

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I think its more likely hes a poor man's Parenteau to accompany Stepan, the poor man's Tavares.

Sure sounds like just another example of inflated expectations for this personnel. If that combo doesnt produce 140+ points combined, will that be the coach's fault?
Who's expecting Zucc to score that much?

I'll be thrilled if he can put up 50 points, which I think he is very capable of. The guy does everything asked of him and then some. I don't know why you feel the need to **** on him.

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Good!

He will be cheap with high upside and little downside.
What doe's this mean for brad richards? Will they buy him out? Or Clowe,no extension?
Or could they fit all under the cap?


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If his deal is relatively cheap, I wouldn't have a problem with a three year contract. If he works out, then you've got a bargain; if not, it shouldn't be hard to get rid of him. There's very minimal risk, and a potentially nice reward.
What is cheap in this case? 1 Mill,1,5? or is 735 more realistic?

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If he becomes the PA Parenteau to Stepan's Tavares/Duchene, I'll be just fine and dandy with the contract. Playing with players can boost stats, but chemistry is important.
If only the Rangers had someone like PA Parenteau in their system.

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If only the Rangers had someone like PA Parenteau in their system.
In before the inevitable mention of Tomas Kundratek.

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If only the Rangers had someone like PA Parenteau in their system.
Its not so much about letting go of Parenteau, its the failure to acquire dynamic centers that make fringe type players (like Parenteau and Zuccarello) look much better than they are.

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