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06-24-2013, 09:33 PM
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Col-NSH (2013 DRAFT DAY)

To COL: Filip Forsberg, 4th Overall, Ellis/Blum, 3rd round pick

to Nsh: 1st Overall, Stastny, Col 2nd round pick

Preds select Mackinnon and Petan

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06-24-2013, 09:36 PM
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....No. 1st overall>4th overall, 32nd>>3rd round pick, and then Stastny for Forsberg and Blum?



Would take a lot more than that to get 1st overall. Really not close.

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06-24-2013, 09:37 PM
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We aren't giving up Forsberg. If that's what it'll cost to get Stastny, I don't want him.

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Take away the 2nd rounder then


I think its worth it for the Preds to give up #4 plus Forsberg for Mac/Barkov

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06-24-2013, 09:39 PM
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Not good for the Avs at all. The way I look at is:

1st overall for 4th+Ellis/Blum+3rd
Stastny+2nd for Forsberg

I think it would cost you at least Forsberg+2nd for Stastny & that isn't enough for the 1st imo.

I think the 1st overall is costing the Preds at least the 4th overall+Forsberg/Ekholm+2nd, maybe more.

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06-24-2013, 09:41 PM
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Take away the 2nd rounder then


I think its worth it for the Preds to give up #4 plus Forsberg for Mac/Barkov


Barkov will most likely be available at 4. Why would you trade Forsberg for nothing?

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06-24-2013, 09:42 PM
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Take away the 2nd rounder then


I think its worth it for the Preds to give up #4 plus Forsberg for Mac/Barkov
Why in the hell would we give up Forsberg? We are already getting one of Mack/Barkov/Drouin/Jones, it's a guarantee. Why are we trading one of our only promising forwards?

I would offer a lot for number 1, but this just doesn't make sense.

4th ov, Ekholm, Watson and maybe next year's 1st as a counter.

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06-24-2013, 09:45 PM
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Barkov will most likely be available at 4. Why would you trade Forsberg for nothing?
doubtful... one of the FL teams will get him

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doubtful... one of the FL teams will get him
I guess there is a chance that Florida will take him now that COL is taking Mac instead of Jones. TBay on the other hand would be all over Jones if he fell.

There is also a chance that FLA deals #2 to someone wanting Jones and then TB goes with Drouin.

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To COL: Filip Forsberg, 4th Overall, Ellis/Blum, 3rd round pick

to Nsh: 1st Overall, Stastny, Col 2nd round pick

Preds select Mackinnon and Petan
Nashville doesnt have a 2nd round pick.

A fair offer to flip would be #4 + 2nd round + 3rd round for #1.

The second part is Forsberg+ ellis/Blum for Stastny and 2 2nd round picks

one of the 2nd round cancel each other out. thus left with the deal.

Stastny << Forsberg + Ellis/Blum
Stastny + 2nd < Forsberg + Ellis/Blum
Stasny + 2 2nds = forsberg + Ellis/Blum

Still this is alot for Nashville to give up in 2 young players for 1 yr of stasny.

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06-24-2013, 09:51 PM
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Nashville doesnt have a 2nd round pick.

A fair offer to flip would be #4 + 2nd round + 3rd round for #1.

The second part is Forsberg+ ellis/Blum for Stastny and 2 2nd round picks

one of the 2nd round cancel each other out. thus left with the deal.

Stastny << Forsberg + Ellis/Blum
Stastny + 2nd < Forsberg + Ellis/Blum
Stasny + 2 2nds = forsberg + Ellis/Blum

Still this is alot for Nashville to give up in 2 young players for 1 yr of stasny.
We aren't trading Forsberg, we just acquired him.

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To COL: Filip Forsberg, 4th Overall, Ellis/Blum, 3rd round pick

to Nsh: 1st Overall, Stastny, Col 2nd round pick

Preds select Mackinnon and Petan
Go Braves. Losing the Thrashers still stings.

As for the trade, meh. I'm 99% sure the Avs don't add when dealing the number 1 pick. 4th + Forsberg for 1 overall may work though.

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06-24-2013, 10:02 PM
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....No. 1st overall>4th overall, 32nd>>3rd round pick, and then Stastny for Forsberg and Blum?



Would take a lot more than that to get 1st overall. Really not close.
Your logic for evaluating that is flawed, but i agree with your conclusion. Nashville makes out well in this trade

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06-24-2013, 10:08 PM
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I would imagine Avs ask for Josi and Preds decline.

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06-25-2013, 08:19 AM
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No way from Nashville. We will ger what we want at #4. Stasny is not worth the asking price.

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06-25-2013, 08:40 AM
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Not good for the Avs at all. The way I look at is:

1st overall for 4th+Ellis/Blum+3rd
Stastny+2nd for Forsberg

I think it would cost you at least Forsberg+2nd for Stastny & that isn't enough for the 1st imo.

I think the 1st overall is costing the Preds at least the 4th overall+Forsberg/Ekholm+2nd, maybe more.
I think it's a decent deal if you take out the second. I think Forsberg for Stastny is a pretty good deal (maybe Preds add a lower pick too?) and Ellis + 3rd to move up three spots isn't bad. That said, I'm sure other teams would come up with a much stronger offer.

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06-25-2013, 08:42 AM
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Remove Stastny from the deal.

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To COL: Filip Forsberg, 4th Overall, Ellis/Blum, 3rd round pick

to Nsh: 1st Overall, Stastny, Col 2nd round pick

Preds select Mackinnon and Petan
thats a really bad trade for Nashville since we are basically going to be building around Forsberg and whoever we pick in this draft.

I like Stastny but if we are drafting Mackinnon, Stastny is extra baggage

I'd rather have FF and Barkov, Drouin or Nichuskin

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06-25-2013, 09:33 AM
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Not giving up FF9 to move up 3 spots when one of the top 4 Kinda has to be there at 4

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06-25-2013, 09:38 AM
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this is a bad deal no matter what team you root for. Stastny is overvalued in Colorado the same way Legwand is in Nashville by its fans. They can't trade him for what he is worth because no GM will pay it. They will pay .50 on the dollar, esp if they know Col is gonna take Mackinnon.

For nashville, Forsberg is a top 5 draft talent that fell for whatever reason. him plus the 4th is ludicrous. Makes no sense to trade 2 top prospects who are considered elite prospects (by many) for one. Stastny plus the first for 4 and Forsberg I think would be turned down by Nashville, because the upside of Forsberg is a sexier proposition than Stastny's steady eddy act. There is not much difference in call between 1 and 5, so overpaying is plain dumb. Give us The 4th plus Blum/Ellis and a later pick is fair value judging by history. The other picks are semantics.

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06-25-2013, 09:50 AM
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1- we don't want or need Stastny's huge contract\production
2- We're not giving up Filip Forsberg
3- It's up in the air if Mackinnon is even better than Barkov, so why spend all those assets when we could keep all of it...and draft a player that's still going to be a franchise impact?

It's one thing if you're picking 12th and you want to get into that top 4...but that's too much to move up 3 spots and take a player that doesn't really fit our needs.

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06-25-2013, 10:15 AM
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To COL: Filip Forsberg, 4th Overall, Ellis/Blum, 3rd round pick

to Nsh: 1st Overall, Stastny, Col 2nd round pick

Preds select Mackinnon and Petan
take the avs 2nd out and I need more info on forsberg before saying yes

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Hell no from this Preds fan. We'll take one of Barkov, Drouin, Jones, or Nichushkin and be very happy with whoever it is.

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