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06-24-2013, 09:43 PM
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If Cammelleri could be had for very little while moving 2 of Pyatt/Powe/Asham then he should be in there. He can play either wing. He did in Montreal.

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I think Bickell is alot better than people give him credit for. If the Rangers could get him for 3 million (fat chance lol), they would be fools not to, he's exactly what a 3rd liner should be, and he's not out of place in the top 6 either.r

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Don't want Bickell within 100 miles of this team. People never learn.

Edit: You're welcome for that Bickell, lol

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I think Bickell is alot better than people give him credit for. If the Rangers could get him for 3 million (fat chance lol), they would be fools not to, he's exactly what a 3rd liner should be, and he's not out of place in the top 6 either.r
When he's hot, like now, he is a good complimentary top 6 LW IF he plays with very skilled players.

He will get paid like Ryan Malone. 4-5 years @ 4+ million per year.

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06-24-2013, 09:51 PM
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Don't want Bickell within 100 miles of this team. People never learn.

Edit: You're welcome for that Bickell, lol
yep...why would we want a guy like him.

lets trade for some underachieving kid who is whining to get away from his current team

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yep...why would we want a guy like him.

lets trade for some underachieving kid who is whining to get away from his current team
Seriously though he's suck here. He'll get the Joel Ward treatment in free agency.

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Let the games begin!
if 48 hours from now, Richards is still on this team...we could bring Moses to coach this team and we will still suck.

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if 48 hours from now, Richards is still on this team...we could bring Moses to coach this team and we will still suck.
Why would Moses be a good coach but not Messier?

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Moses and Messier are both great leaders but, once again, no coaching experience

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Moses and Messier are both great leaders but, once again, no coaching experience
Moses is like Torts. Everything he believes about coaching is written in stone. We need someone more flexible.

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off season officially begins.. Teams have until July 4th to buy out players.

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Moses is like Torts. Everything he believes about coaching is written in stone. We need someone more flexible.
Post of the night.

Now lets hear what these supposed agrees upon trades are that were waiting until the playoffs were done.

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Come on. Most people in here would absolutely love having a player like Bickell on the roster.

What most people don't want is to give him a 4M x 5-6 year deal which honestly I could see a team offering.

The Rangers need to develop their own Bickell. Easier said than done, to be sure.

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Could someone clarify. The draft is on Sunday only this year? Its usually 1st round on the Friday night and rounds 2 to 7 on Saturday.

They compacted it all into one day, on Sunday?

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Come on. Most people in here would absolutely love having a player like Bickell on the roster.

What most people don't want is to give him a 4M x 5-6 year deal which honestly I could see a team offering.

The Rangers need to develop their own Bickell. Easier said than done, to be sure.
This is it right here.

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Come on. Most people in here would absolutely love having a player like Bickell on the roster.

What most people don't want is to give him a 4M x 5-6 year deal which honestly I could see a team offering.

The Rangers need to develop their own Bickell. Easier said than done, to be sure.
Bickell was drafted in 2004, had few up and down years, it took him 9 years to get to this point. If he were a Rangers prospect he would have been called all kinds of names.
To get players like him fully developed you need patience, which is a virtue i find sorely lacking on these boards.

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Come on. Most people in here would absolutely love having a player like Bickell on the roster.

What most people don't want is to give him a 4M x 5-6 year deal which honestly I could see a team offering.

The Rangers need to develop their own Bickell. Easier said than done, to be sure.
Luckily we have our own RFAs to sign. Don't waste time on overpaying the 4th line. Id like to see Lindberg, Fast(h), Miller, Dorsett, Hagelin comprise of the bottom six. Add a veteran in there. No more elephants and one dimensional overpaid garbage.

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Come on. Most people in here would absolutely love having a player like Bickell on the roster.

What most people don't want is to give him a 4M x 5-6 year deal which honestly I could see a team offering.

The Rangers need to develop their own Bickell. Easier said than done, to be sure.
I dont see any team giving him 5-6 years, only the ELITE players will sniff contracts that long with the caps going down and the new cap capture rule.

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Luckily we have our own RFAs to sign. Don't waste time on overpaying the 4th line. Id like to see Lindberg, Fast(h), Miller, Dorsett, Hagelin comprise of the bottom six. Add a veteran in there. No more elephants and one dimensional overpaid garbage.
well if Richards stays really all they can do is sign RFAs then go with the players you mention as options

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Could someone clarify. The draft is on Sunday only this year? Its usually 1st round on the Friday night and rounds 2 to 7 on Saturday.

They compacted it all into one day, on Sunday?
Yup, all seven rounds this Sunday.

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Luckily we have our own RFAs to sign. Don't waste time on overpaying the 4th line.
What 4th line? as a matter of fact, what 3rd line are you talking about not overpaying?

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well if Richards stays really all they can do is sign RFAs then go with the players you mention as options
pretty much, other than moving a defensemen for forward help.

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I dont see any team giving him 5-6 years, only the ELITE players will sniff contracts that long with the caps going down and the new cap capture rule.
I think you are underestimating the power of the free market. We will find out.

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Bickell was drafted in 2004, had few up and down years, it took him 9 years to get to this point. If he were a Rangers prospect he would have been called all kinds of names.
To get players like him fully developed you need patience, which is a virtue i find sorely lacking on these boards.
FWIW, I definitely agree. But the Rangers haven't seemed to draft many players in that mold regardless. Jessiman pick definitely scared them off a bit. Fingers crossed for Yogan.

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What 4th line? as a matter of fact, what 3rd line are you talking about not overpaying?
With names like Bickell, Stalberg, Briere, and others being thrown around, along with Clowe, Pyatt, Asham. Boyle. Newbury, Haley...

Those players would be ****ing horrendous.

The Rangers were an immobile, predictable, herd of elephants. No transition. Not enough speed to get through the neutral zone, or to win races to pucks. Complete lack of skill in the bottom six.

Infuse skill, speed, and hungry youth.

Worked just fine for the Blackhawks.

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