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10-18-2006, 12:27 AM
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What happened with Samsonov tonight?

I was at the game so I didn't get the TV coverage, obviously. I saw Perezhogin and Begin playing with Pleks and Kovalev at times. I thought he was injured then I saw him take a shift with the two of them. I just checked the TOI distribution...

He played 10:10 tonight... Only Latendresse (and Downey) played less.

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10-18-2006, 12:34 AM
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No idea he may have been benched, because besides that one good shift he had keeping the puck in he did not have a great game.

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I was at the game so I didn't get the TV coverage, obviously. I saw Perezhogin and Begin playing with Pleks and Kovalev at times. I thought he was injured then I saw him take a shift with the two of them. I just checked the TOI distribution...

He played 10:10 tonight... Only Latendresse (and Downey) played less.
Plain simple.. He was atrocious! Making crappy passes and not winning his battles for the puck.. He is better to wake up soon cause at the moment he really looks like a chicken without head... Slighly better version of Oleg Petrov at the moment... Gainey could regret this signing alot... Kostitsyn is awaiting for a chance while Latendresse looks quite brutal since the last 2 games.. I thought he played decent in his first few games but right now he is clearly looking lost on the ice...

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He just looks like he doesn't care at all. No speed, crappy passes, he's terrible.

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10-18-2006, 12:55 AM
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He forgot to take his crazy pills?

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10-18-2006, 01:29 AM
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Oilers fans asked the same question during the playoffs last year, where is Samsanov.....only guy who didn't know was Gainey I guess....

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10-18-2006, 08:09 AM
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I am guessing the following:

(a) He was invisible for most of the night - so he may have been benched for a bit in the 3rd...BUT
(b) The Habs were shorthanded for a long stretch in the 3rd, which means Samsonov does not play AND
(c) In the last 5 minutes, with a 1 goal lead, Carbo decided to play a defensive specialist, Begin, on the line. I have no probs with that. I bet if the Habs were down a goal, we would have seen a lot of Samsonov

Look, he did not have a great game, it happens and will happen again. With the Habs being Shorthanded for a large part of the beginning of the game, it might have been difficult for Samsonov to get into the game. Anyway, no reason to panic.

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10-18-2006, 08:28 AM
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1 Thing I noticed,when it's starts to get physical,you can forget about him,it's like if he dosen't want to get hurt.Well see tonight there should be a bit more room out there against the Hawks

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Don't forget the fact that a lot of the game was spent on PK where Sammy does not and should not be on the ice.

Sadly, he was a non-factor for the times where he was on the ice.

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Because he sucks ?

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What do you mean what happened to Samsonov? He played his usual invisible role that Gainey wants him to perfect for playoffs. Then he could come from nowhere for all the hat-tricks while not watched by opponent's defense. It's called working under cover.

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Because he sucks ?
Wow, what a mature way of putting it.

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Wow, what a mature way of putting it.
This is "The Damned" you are refering too

Clean, concise and non-subtle responses are his game

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Plain simple.. He was atrocious! Making crappy passes and not winning his battles for the puck.. He is better to wake up soon cause at the moment he really looks like a chicken without head... Slighly better version of Oleg Petrov at the moment... Gainey could regret this signing alot... Kostitsyn is awaiting for a chance while Latendresse looks quite brutal since the last 2 games.. I thought he played decent in his first few games but right now he is clearly looking lost on the ice...
In what way is Samsonov a better version of Oleg Petrov right now. I would say Samsonov right now, is a much WORSE version of Petrov. If what Sammy has shown us in his first 5 games as a hab is what we can expect for the entire season, I would much, much rather have Oleg Petrov. I assume when he is on, Samsonov is much more dangerous than Petrov, but when he is off, he seems to bring absolutely nothing to the table, unlike Petrov, who although not blessed with the offensive insticts of a Samsonov, when not scoring could still bring hustle, a good work ethic, and respondable defensive play to the table.

Oleg Petrov >>>> Samsonov so far this year.

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he didnt get much pp time and durring the 2nd half of the 3rd He was replaced by Begin so the Plekanec line could protect the lead.

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Petrov was way better ... because at this point Samsonov has showed NOTHING beside that fantastic tying goal against the Sens

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10-18-2006, 10:41 AM
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WHY did the habs ever let go of Petrov

we ALL liked our lil Russian rocket....

i hear he still lives in Montreal?

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10-18-2006, 10:47 AM
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In what way is Samsonov a better version of Oleg Petrov right now. I would say Samsonov right now, is a much WORSE version of Petrov. If what Sammy has shown us in his first 5 games as a hab is what we can expect for the entire season, I would much, much rather have Oleg Petrov. I assume when he is on, Samsonov is much more dangerous than Petrov, but when he is off, he seems to bring absolutely nothing to the table, unlike Petrov, who although not blessed with the offensive insticts of a Samsonov, when not scoring could still bring hustle, a good work ethic, and respondable defensive play to the table.

Oleg Petrov >>>> Samsonov so far this year.
100% agreed... PETROV RULES

But, on a side note, I feel bad comparing the two since I love them both. Their style is quite similar... Petrov with more determination, Sammy with more skill.
I haven't yet thrown the towel for Samsonov.

WHat I don't understand is when Carbo plays Kovalev-Ryder (who were getting regular shifts), but not once Sammy with Begin-Latendresse after Downey's exit.

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Yeah I was pissed when he signed with the Habs. I don't like his game at all. I watched three Habs games so far and he looks useless. Maybe Gainey can sucker some team into trading for him?

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10-18-2006, 10:58 AM
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Give it time guys...the season is still young.

Sammy has always been streaky. Before you know it, he'll pot 5 or 6 goals only to go scoreless for 10.

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Before watching Samsonov play, just going by what people were telling here, I actually thought he was a slightly better Petrov... and while by the skillset he may actually be alot better, his heart and dedication aren't even near Petrov.

Petrov was all heart, always hustling, battling through checks... Petrov the Warrior !

I hope somebody will wake Samsonov somewhere around the middle of the season... I wouldn't mind putting Perezhogin at Samsonov's place on the 2nd line. At least he tries something !

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I expected more from Sammy, but I guess last yr wasn't a "fluke" season.. he did suck. I liked him as a Bruins tho, so maybe he'll find his game again.. he's invisible out there.

The good news is that that line has played a lot better past few games.

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Before watching Samsonov play, just going by what people were telling here, I actually thought he was a slightly better Petrov... and while by the skillset he may actually be alot better, his heart and dedication aren't even near Petrov.

Petrov was all heart, always hustling, battling through checks... Petrov the Warrior !

I hope somebody will wake Samsonov somewhere around the middle of the season... I wouldn't mind putting Perezhogin at Samsonov's place on the 2nd line. At least he tries something !
But where do you put Samsonov after? Certainly not on the third line...

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Its starting to get on my nerves because when he was a Bruin and played against us I was scared to death everytime he touched the puck. It was like he always created something. Now when he just looks confused and out of synch with his team-mates most of the time.

I'm hoping a little more gelling and getting used to our system he'll start to look better.

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I usually don't jump on the gun too fast, but.... what a bad move! Ouch, I didn't know he was that bad. I knew the skillset was there but I didn't know he plays a such dumb game. But I'm going to wait a little longer to see if he can pick it up. But if we can trade him even if we signed him as a ufa, I would do it. After all, he's not the kind of player we needed in the first place. But hindsight is always 20/20.

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