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06-20-2013, 06:56 PM
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Not sure they would need to terminate his contract. If SK wants to play a season in the KHL I would assume that the Preds could reach an agreement to "suspend" him, thus maintaining his NHL rights if he chooses to return
Nashville would not waste there time. They are probably celebrating right now at the money they will not waste on another year of him taking up a roster spot.

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06-20-2013, 07:03 PM
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Not sure they would need to terminate his contract. If SK wants to play a season in the KHL I would assume that the Preds could reach an agreement to "suspend" him, thus maintaining his NHL rights if he chooses to return
The KHL and NHL are supposed to honor the contracts of one another now. I assume it would be frowned upon to sign a player under contract, even with the permission of the team's GM. I'm sure there is an agreement to terminate SK's contract if he reaches a KHL agreement.

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06-25-2013, 11:50 AM
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S.Kostitsyn exploring KHL options

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Doesn't surprise me, the Predators weren't too pleased by his work ethic or dedication this past season.

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06-25-2013, 11:55 AM
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Doesn't surprise me, the Predators weren't too pleased by his work ethic or dedication this past season.
3 mil for 3 goals. Good Riddance.

The Preds will do more with the 3 mil savings than SK would bring to the team.

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06-25-2013, 11:58 AM
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If I'm a Predators fan, I'd be praying for this to go through.

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06-25-2013, 12:15 PM
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If I'm a Predators fan, I'd be praying for this to go through.
Yep, no complaints here.

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06-25-2013, 12:16 PM
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I believe Poile also stated that it needs to be cleared up before July 5th

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06-25-2013, 02:38 PM
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His effort was bad, but underneath it is enough skill to flourish somewhere in the NHL. Not much different than Bryz in Philly, wrong guy for the system.

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06-25-2013, 03:02 PM
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I don't get all the hate. I've been pulling for him since he arrived in Nashville. However, he just hasn't been the same since his brother was suspended. Now if we loan him we probably still have him for a year if he ever comes back. This does put a very bad taste in us Preds fans mouths though. First Rad just bolts, now SK wants out too it seems. I don't think we'll be drafting Nich.

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06-25-2013, 03:10 PM
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Gotta blame someone for your problems.

Not crappy system. Crappy GM. Crappy coach. Crappy captain.

Blame Eastern Europeans first!

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Gotta blame someone for your problems.

Not crappy system. Crappy GM. Crappy coach. Crappy captain.

Blame Eastern Europeans first!
Yeah, Poile sucks as a GM, and Trotz couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag and that Shea Weber guy couldn't be a leader. I don't blame SK for bolting with those 3 killing his talent and mojo, couldn't be his work ethic or attitude.....

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Yeah, Poile sucks as a GM, and Trotz couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag and that Shea Weber guy couldn't be a leader. I don't blame SK for bolting with those 3 killing his talent and mojo, couldn't be his work ethic or attitude.....
Even if it is his personal attitude I suppose the guy above was trying to point out that it gets tiresome seeing the failures of European players explained by anti-European propaganda. Kostitsyn didn't go to the bench and abandon his goalie vs Edmonton because he's European, he did so because he has got a poor work ethic - as an INDIVIDUAL.

(Notice that when US or Canadian players bust, their failure is explained as coming from a lack of individual motivation, but when European players fail, it's because they are europeans)


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06-25-2013, 03:22 PM
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Gotta blame someone for your problems.

Not crappy system. Crappy GM. Crappy coach. Crappy captain.

Blame Eastern Europeans first!
Yeah you're right. It's the fault of Poile, a guy who has been nominated for GM of the Year several times; Trotz, a guy who has been up for the Jack Adams several times; and Weber, a guy who was just barely beaten out for Norris twice in a row and led his team to their first two second round appearances in his first two years as captain. It has nothing to do with SK not being happy here. Why stop there? It's also our crappy goaltender! It has nothing to do with 50 points being his most successful NHL season. It has nothing to do with SK at all.

Nationality be damned, SK is the odd man out in your little placing blame fantasy. Three of the four people mentioned are fantastic at the jobs. The other has been good, not great.

I liked SK when he first came here, and I thought all of the hate he got was misplaced. I still think that. I also think, from having watched him over the past couple of seasons, that his heart just isn't in it in the NHL. He was happy and worked hard when he first got out of Montreal. I have no doubt that the pressure cooker that is the Canadiens and Montreal sports media got to him. He was just as happy when his brother came over here in 2011. Something changed after that summer. He is no longer happy, and you can tell it on the ice.

If the kid will be happier playing in the KHL, let him. If it benefits him and the team, that is fine by me. It has absolutely jack **** to do with where he was born. It has to do with performance and what is best for all parties involved.

So maybe next time make better assumptions, huh?

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06-25-2013, 03:24 PM
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Even if it is his personal attitude I suppose the guy above was trying to point out that it gets tiresome seeing the failures of European players explained by anti-European propaganda. Kostitsyn didn't go to the bench and abandon his goalie vs Edmonton because he's European, he did so because he has got a poor work ethic - as an INDIVIDUAL.

(Notice that when US or Canadian players bust, their failure is explained as coming from a lack of individual motivation, but when European players fail, it's because they are europeans)
I can agree with that. And if Poile already said he'd have no problem drafting Nich, so I know Poile agrees.

Sk is lazy and has an attitude issue now. It has nothing to do with where he's from.

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06-25-2013, 03:27 PM
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I've seen all of ONE comment that even hinted at nationality being part of this, and it was a comment about Radulov and SK (possibly) going to the KHL leaving a bad taste in the mouths of (some) Preds fans.

The first two posters to fully go into the nationality thing were SimplySensational and Oxenstierna. Let's not pretend like this has been a thread designed to bash players from European countries when it hasn't been that at all. The fastest way to turn it into one, however, is to pretend like that's how it has been this entire time while railing against what hasn't even been said.

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06-26-2013, 02:37 PM
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Credit to Dave is a Killer on the Preds board

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Good for Preds amd SK

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Good luck to him. Hopefully the move makes him happier.

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06-26-2013, 03:48 PM
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Poile was pretty blunt about this, saying something like "You can't pay someone $3 million and get 3 goals in return." Nashville plans to loan him out, so they'll carry his cap hit next year, unless things change.

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Poile was pretty blunt about this, saying something like "You can't pay someone $3 million and get 3 goals in return." Nashville plans to loan him out, so they'll carry his cap hit next year, unless things change.
Right after I posted this, Igor Eronko tweeted that it's not a done deal but "close".

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Isn't it the cap hit minus league minimum ($525k) plus $375k?

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Isn't it the cap hit minus league minimum ($525k) plus $375k?
Not sure, the article I read seemed to suggest the whole cap. I don't know why the Preds and SK wouldn't just terminate his contract, to be honest.

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Aren't they not allowed to mutually agree to terminate the contract? I thought the Preds would have to buy him out if they wanted to get rid of his contract.

From what I understand from reading the relevant portion of the CBA and an explanation on Cap Geek, "buried contract", or NHL SPCs for players playing in other leagues, the cap hit remains "less the league minimum plus $375,000", or $900k. That could just mean players sent to the AHL, but the way the CBA is worded it seems like it applies to any player on an NHL SPC playing in any other league.

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Doesn't surprise me, the Predators weren't too pleased by his work ethic or dedication this past season.
How does a guy who played on the PK have a poor work ethic? I don't get that sort of comment. You can't be lazy or have a poor work ethic if you're a penalty killer.

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How does a guy who played on the PK have a poor work ethic? I don't get that sort of comment. You can't be lazy or have a poor work ethic if you're a penalty killer.
Didn't he just prove you can? SK got really unhappy, it showed in his play, I hope the KHL makes him happy. Not looking forward to him railing on the league abroad, sure the KHL media will eat up every soundbite he has to offer in terms of this.

But his play was uninspired a lot this last year. PK or no PK as a rival fan I could see it. I don't hate the guy, unhappiness will cause problems in everyone and it bleeds into all areas of your life. Hopefully this gives him what he is looking for.

Not expecting the Preds to hit the upper cap numbers, so the buyout/termination seems moot. They just carry the caphit while not playing/paying him.

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