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06-25-2013, 11:23 AM
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What indication did you get last year with no practice and a few games that he may not make the roster?
He clearly passed in a limited amount of time and definitely held his own. Maybe i was watching a different guy.. I dunno
his skill with the puck is undeniable.. but away from the puck, there's alot of work to be done. and as good of moves as he has/made with the puck, i think he had a single secondary assist in 6 games. FF making the team is definitely not a lock.

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06-25-2013, 11:26 AM
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If you're at 4 and Drouin, Barkov and Mac are all gone, you HAVE to take Jones. He's BPA at that point, and you're crazy to not take him. Plus, it's generally easier to pick up a forwardthan it is a defenseman.

Maybe Poile isn't sold on Josi panning out as a top pairing guy.
If he wasn't sold on Josi being a top pairing guy, no way would he had signed Josi to that contract.

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I saw him make several great plays that the other Pred didn't finish. The away from the puck game will come with practice which he hasn't got yet. Be hard to see him not making the roster.

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06-25-2013, 11:28 AM
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What indication did you get last year with no practice and a few games that he may not make the roster?
He clearly passed in a limited amount of time and definitely held his own. Maybe i was watching a different guy.. I dunno
Small sample size; remember when Blum was first called up? He passed his audition, then was terrible next season. Blum had more GP as well.

Good info Goc; I found the Seth Jones comment interesting even if it doesn't come into play. Very curious as to which Top 6 guy he has in his sights and what the cost is.

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One thing I won't question Poile on and that's his ability to analyze defensive prospects. If he's saying Jones is the best player in the draft, then Jones probably is an incredible talent.

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06-25-2013, 11:36 AM
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One thing I won't question Poile on and that's his ability to analyze defensive prospects. If he's saying Jones is the best player in the draft, then Jones probably is an incredible talent.
as blum hasnt even been qualified and ellis isnt developing like we want.... lol just kidding.

i agree.

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06-25-2013, 11:45 AM
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Awesome. Poile is trying to drive up the value of Jones to counteract Roy trying to drive him down... funny stuff if you think about it.

EDIT: and maybe both are preparing their fan base for an unpopular choice.

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If you're at 4 and Drouin, Barkov and Mac are all gone, you HAVE to take Jones. He's BPA at that point, and you're crazy to not take him. Plus, it's generally easier to pick up a forwardthan it is a defenseman.
Go back and look at the top 5 players drafted the last, say 20 years and look at the defensemen vs forwards. Two stick out, Niedermayer and Pronger but they had way better numbers then Jones did. In the top 5, it is much better to draft a forward then a defenseman.

Take that aside, and look at how difficult it's been for the Predators to draft, trade for or sign a legitimate scorer. Those defending Poile for not drafting a scorer have said that well the team didn't draft in the top five to get that player. Now we have a chance.


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06-25-2013, 11:55 AM
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This is the first time I have really doubted Poile. But I don't know him that well - maybe he's fogging things up. He's not going to be able to go out and plug in a top line free agent scorer - there's not enough of them around. And without one coming from the draft -next year will be business as usual - average D, no scoring and a good D pipeline. Hope not.

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06-25-2013, 11:58 AM
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Couple of tweets to add:

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Poile said in terms of QOs with Blum and Halischuk, he may still eventually send them out. Looking at trade possibilities
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Go back and look at the top 5 players drafted the last, say 20 years and look at the defensemen vs forwards. Two stick out, Niedermayer and Pronger but they had way better numbers then Jones did. In the top 5, it is much better to draft a forward then a defenseman.

Take that aside, and look at how difficult it's been for the Predators to draft, trade for or sign a legitimate scorer. Those defending Poile for not drafting a scorer have said that well the team didn't draft in the top five to get that player. Now we have a chance.
I think you should take into consideration how the game has evolved. Big oafs do not pass as defenseman anymore as you have to be able to move the puck. Jones does that, and has size. Once he learns how to use it he will be a very good player. If we have a need on the second pair and Jones fills it, so what? Poile can try and find a proven scorer in a trade. If Jones fell to us and our top 4 is set for the next 5 years minimum, we have assets to move in Ellis/Blum/Ekholm that can net us something of value

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06-25-2013, 12:33 PM
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I think you should take into consideration how the game has evolved. Big oafs do not pass as defenseman anymore as you have to be able to move the puck. Jones does that, and has size. Once he learns how to use it he will be a very good player. If we have a need on the second pair and Jones fills it, so what? Poile can try and find a proven scorer in a trade. If Jones fell to us and our top 4 is set for the next 5 years minimum, we have assets to move in Ellis/Blum/Ekholm that can net us something of value
I understand what you are saying and agree to a point, but a few things.

1 - I wouldn't expect Jones to be playing top 4 next year. Maybe in a few years. You could argue the same for a forward as well of course.
2 - I'll believe it when I see it regarding Poile trading for a proven scorer. He hasn't really done it yet and really doesn't use his assets that well when he has abundances. The only thing that springs to mind was Parent in the Forsberg trade. But that was a deadline rental with the owner selling the team in a few months.

If I'm looking at this draft's top 5, I think of 2006, except 2013's forwards project to be better offensively.

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If you're at 4 and Drouin, Barkov and Mac are all gone, you HAVE to take Jones. He's BPA at that point, and you're crazy to not take him. Plus, it's generally easier to pick up a forward than it is a defenseman.

Maybe Poile isn't sold on Josi panning out as a top pairing guy.


If we take Jones, it will take all my restraint and decorum not to smash every breakable item I own into a wall. He's supremely talented, but if take a defenseman, it shows that the Predators, when faced with an opportunity to breathe new life and energy into the club, cannot get out of their own way.

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06-25-2013, 01:21 PM
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If we take Jones, it will take all my restraint and decorum not to smash every breakable item I own into a wall. He's supremely talented, but if take a defenseman, it shows that the Predators, when faced with an opportunity to breathe new life and energy into the club, cannot get out of their own way.
So, if the big 3 are gone, you're going Nich (assuming no trade)?

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If we take Jones, it will take all my restraint and decorum not to smash every breakable item I own into a wall. He's supremely talented, but if take a defenseman, it shows that the Predators, when faced with an opportunity to breathe new life and energy into the club, cannot get out of their own way.
If Mack, Drouin, and Barkov are gone you have no choice. You can take the russian but he is a huge risk compared to Jones and risk taking this high in the draft is a really bad idea.

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06-25-2013, 01:27 PM
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I would take Jones at #4. He is supposed to be great at starting a rush and making the breakout pass (Suter traits). We missed that this past season. I won't complain much as long as we stay in the top 4.

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I would be both utterly shocked (and disappointed) if Jones falls to fourth. No chance of it happening IMO, but you have to take him if he's there. I hate sounding like a spoiled brat, but I'd be disappointed if that happened.

Even though I dont think he goes top 4, it's nice to see the front office not taking a prejudiced view on Nich. It's refreshing considering the state of this board. At some point you have to get over Radulov.

Thanks for posting this summary op.

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I would be both utterly shocked (and disappointed) if Jones falls to fourth. No chance of it happening IMO, but you have to take him if he's there. I hate sounding like a spoiled brat, but I'd be disappointed if that happened.

Even though I dont think he goes top 4, it's nice to see the front office not taking a prejudiced view on Nich. It's refreshing considering the state of this board. At some point you have to get over Radulov.

Thanks for posting this summary op.
I agree with you, in some ways I'd be disappointed but I realize we will get a hell of a player at 4.

It is good to see Poile come out and say that and not hold it against the kid for being Russian.

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Just a thought. So if the forwards are supposed to be getting bigger and stronger, does that take Drouin out of the mix?


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Just a thought. So if the forwards are supposed to be getting bigger and stronger, does that take Drouin out of the mix?
Not when Patrick Kane just won the Conn Smythe less then 24 hours ago.

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As far as the cap goes, we currently sit with $12.1 in room with Spaling and Brennen ($1.6 combined last year) being the only ones most likely re-signed (maybe Yip, UFA) as well as a backup. Not signing Blum and Hali saved $1.3.

So, as I see it, we should have around $7-ish after signing a backup, the RFA's, and the #4. If SK hits the K, that bumps up to $10-ish.

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I would be both utterly shocked (and disappointed) if Jones falls to fourth. No chance of it happening IMO, but you have to take him if he's there. I hate sounding like a spoiled brat, but I'd be disappointed if that happened.

Even though I dont think he goes top 4, it's nice to see the front office not taking a prejudiced view on Nich. It's refreshing considering the state of this board. At some point you have to get over Radulov.

Thanks for posting this summary op.
Jones won't fall to 4th no need to worry yourself. The best Dman to come out of the draft in 20 years is not going to go past 1 or 2. It's simple.
#1 -Mac or Jones
#2 -Mac or Jones
#3 -Barkov or Druin
#3 Barkov/Druin/Trade.

Book it!

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I am LIVID about Hali and Blum. Absolutely livid. Not qualifying them is absolutely horrible asset management, and saying so just makes their value even smaller.

Hopefully he can get a 2nd for both or something.

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Jones won't fall to 4th no need to worry yourself. The best Dman to come out of the draft in 20 years is not going to go past 1 or 2. It's simple.
#1 -Mac or Jones
#2 -Mac or Jones
#3 -Barkov or Druin
#3 Barkov/Druin/Trade.

Book it!
Jones isn't the best defenseman in 20 years. Not by a longshot. No one is dumb enough to even claim that.

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