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06-25-2013, 03:08 PM
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That's not really true. He's injury prone, but I wouldn't say he lacks competitiveness.
Really? He's been badmouthed all over the place, and I'm not talking about HFBoards. He's lost a step and just doesn't really care.

They are desperately trying to get rid of him. Wouldn't want him anywhere near this team.

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Why are u guys arguing over who is the better 4th liner? The Rangers have many options for 4th liners... We need top 9 talent
Agreed. Pyatt, Dorsett, Boyle, Powe, Asham are 4th liners. The top 9 is completely dreadful though. That won't be fixed in one offseason however.

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Interested to see if Carolina trades the 5th pick. Need a top 4 D. Could be part of a package. Told Rutherford is getting lots of calls.

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Agreed. Pyatt, Dorsett, Boyle, Powe, Asham are 4th liners. The top 9 is completely dreadful though. That won't be fixed in one offseason however.
So, I see (2) solid 4th line players. The rest are crap.

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It would be awesome to trade Staal for the 5th pick. I like the guy, but I think he's damaged goods at this point. And somehow, miraculously Seth Jones drops at the 5th spot.

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Interested to see if Carolina trades the 5th pick. Need a top 4 D. Could be part of a package. Told Rutherford is getting lots of calls.
I have to say, I'm excited about the prospect of Nichushkin, Drouin or MacKinnon a Ranger, though we'd have to be lucky to land one of them at #5.

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So, I see (2) solid 4th line players. The rest are crap.
The Rangers have a lot more problems than the 4th line..

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I have to say, I'm excited about the prospect of Nichushkin, Drouin or MacKinnon a Ranger, though we'd have to be lucky to land one of them at #5.
Mackinnon apparently is going 1.

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I have to say, I'm excited about the prospect of Nichushkin, Drouin or MacKinnon a Ranger, though we'd have to be lucky to land one of them at #5.
I wouldn't say we'd be lucky to land Nichuskin at #5.

Could perhaps get Jones if the top-3 goes Mac/Barkov/Drouin. I think Nashville would opt for Monahan/Nich over Jones.

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So, I see (2) solid 4th line players. The rest are crap.
Agreed. Only Boyle and maybe Dorsett. However the 4th line, while being worrisome is hardly comparable to the deficiencies on defense and the top 9. Those are bigger holes to fill. The 4th line is a much easier fix.

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The Rangers have a lot more problems than the 4th line..
Of course they do. Top end scoring talent for 1. However, if a team doesn't have a lot of top-end talent, they need depth scoring. I'll take an upgrade wherever I can get it.

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Agreed. Pyatt, Dorsett, Boyle, Powe, Asham are 4th liners. The top 9 is completely dreadful though. That won't be fixed in one offseason however.
Disagree we could move del Zotto for a top 6 guy and sign one and the Rangers depth becomes instantly better, u just have no faith in sather and can't say I blame u lol

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Disagree we could move del Zotto for a top 6 guy and sign one and the Rangers depth becomes instantly better, u just have no faith in sather and can't say I blame u lol
That probably makes the Rangers a good team, but I hardly see them as cup contenders with only one addition of a 2nd line winger. They need to revamp their forward core.

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I there there is a slight chance Drouin is there at 5. Hell, I think theres a chance Jones is there at 5. Never really know.

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So, I see (2) solid 4th line players. The rest are crap.
As opposed to Jordan Tootoo?

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I there there is a slight chance Drouin is there at 5. Hell, I think theres a chance Jones is there at 5. Never really know.
Does it really matter who is there @ 5? It will be a very good player.

Nichuskin
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Could they make a bad choice?

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As opposed to Jordan Tootoo?
I have laid out the facts. If you would like to refute them, go right ahead. But it required evidence.

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Does it really matter who is there @ 5? It will be a very good player.

Nichuskin
Jones
Mackinnon
Drouin
Monahan
Barkov

Could they make a bad choice?
its the Rangers... did you really ask that?

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Does it really matter who is there @ 5? It will be a very good player.

Nichuskin
Jones
Mackinnon
Drouin
Monahan
Barkov

Could they make a bad choice?
This. Not sure I'd go for Monahan that early, but really, I'd be ecstatic if we had the 5th OV pick.

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A lot of people feel the same way about Coyle as you do. Others are very high on Foligno as well. I think any of the three I mentioned would be a plus to the current line up.
The problem is that all three of those guys are on bubble or rebuilding teams. It would take overpayment to acquire one of them. We're better off being patient with Yogan or going high risk/reward on a guy in the 3rd round.

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Interested to see if Carolina trades the 5th pick. Need a top 4 D. Could be part of a package. Told Rutherford is getting lots of calls.

Wonder if we're one of those teams calling in.
I know everyone's always about Staal to Car or DZ to Edm, but what about DZ to Car?

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Carolina has 7.5M in cap space RIGHT NOW with 17 players only signed for next year.. Even less, because apparently they are a "budget" team if reports are right that they want to be around 61M. They are NOT trading the #5 pick for a defensemen (albeit very good) making 4M which is still a great cap hit for Staal, they will also not move Tlusty who is on an ELC contract for him either. It just doesnt make sense for them to do that financially, think about it.

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I doubt the Canes would trade the #5 pick before seeing who is on the board. No chance they risk trading the pick for Staal, and then watch Jones slip to us at #5.

IMO, Jones is the best player in this draft. If he slipped beyond #2 I'd be blown away. Realistically, you'd be looking at one of Nichushkin or Drouin, I think. Whichever one Tampa passes on.

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I have to say, I'm excited about the prospect of Nichushkin, Drouin or MacKinnon a Ranger, though we'd have to be lucky to land one of them at #5.
It's one of those 3, Barkov or Jones at 5 at worst.

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Carolina has 7.5M in cap space RIGHT NOW with 17 players only signed for next year.. Even less, because apparently they are a "budget" team if reports are right that they want to be around 61M. They are NOT trading the #5 pick for a defensemen (albeit very good) making 4M which is still a great cap hit for Staal, they will also not move Tlusty who is on an ELC contract for him either. It just doesnt make sense for them to do that financially, think about it.
A top-5 pick is going to carry a hefty cap hit regardless.

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