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06-25-2013, 09:08 PM
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This actually made me go "Woooaaahhhttt?" A combination of "woah" and "what."

Oh Gainey, you sap.

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06-25-2013, 09:10 PM
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This actually made me go "Woooaaahhhttt?" A combination of "woah" and "what."

Oh Gainey, you sap.
Son of an apple?

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06-25-2013, 09:12 PM
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Have you heard of Jonathan Quick? And the one in New York, hmm...Henrik Lundqvist? He's good, I'm telling ya!
Yeah Ive heard of them.......but ask me that same question again in 5 years....my answer will be the same.

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06-25-2013, 09:12 PM
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The only Franchise goalie that I can remember in the last 20 years is Martin Brodeur.
Lol Hasek

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06-25-2013, 09:13 PM
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Have you heard of Jonathan Quick? And the one in New York, hmm...Henrik Lundqvist? He's good, I'm telling ya!
There was also this Roy guy...

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Fleury was rushed to the NHL, and on a very bad team at that. Who knows what would have happened if the organization took its time with him.

Regardless, he still has two Cup appearances with one win, which is more than any Habs goalie since Roy.

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06-25-2013, 09:19 PM
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Lol Hasek
Yeah he played for 4 different teams and two stints in Detroit.

My definition of a Franchise goalie would be one that is drafted by the team he retires for and leads them to multiple Stanley Cups and multiple personal awards. AKA Martin Brodeur. Not to mention international status.

That's a Franchise Goalie.

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06-25-2013, 09:25 PM
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There was also this Roy guy...

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There was also this Roy guy...
Franchise goalies don't ask to be traded!

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06-25-2013, 09:29 PM
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Franchise goalies don't ask to be traded!
It looks like they ask to be traded because Roy was one of them...

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People in 03 thought Fleury was going to be a franchise goalie, like people in 07 were confused and highly skeptical (and I'm being generous here) of the Subban pick.
How are those 2 picks related?

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06-25-2013, 09:33 PM
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Franchise goalies don't ask to be traded!
What I want to know is when are you gonna publish "Charlie's Redefinition of Hockey Terminology"?

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06-25-2013, 09:34 PM
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I love how this turned into a Price thread. Because we don't have enough of those.
Haven't you heard? Price is obviously the biggest draft bust of all time.

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06-25-2013, 09:35 PM
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What I want to know is when are you gonna publish "Charlie's Redefinition of Hockey Terminology"?
Its coming out soon Im calling it "CHUCKY"

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06-25-2013, 09:38 PM
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How are those 2 picks related?
It's not the picks that were related, but the assessment of talent. Seeing that Gainey attempted to acquire Fleury in hindsight doesn't look good, but at the time Fleury was highly touted. Similar to how the picking of Subban was highly question on this board at the time, but in hindsight was a home run.

Being upset with Gainey for attempting to acquire the first overall selected player is like getting mad at Bergevin in the future for having attempted to acquire (for argument sakes) Nathan Mackinnon or Seth Jones both of whom right now are labeled as can't miss prospects.

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06-25-2013, 09:39 PM
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Franchise goalies don't ask to be traded!
So he was a potential franchise player until a couple years following his second hoisting of the cup.

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06-25-2013, 09:42 PM
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So he was a potential franchise player until a couple years following his second hoisting of the cup.
is that a question or an answer?

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I'm no fan of Gainey's overall track record while he was here, but i don't see how him wanting to move up to draft a french-canadian player who was considered a "can't miss" prospect a bad thing...

now, if it comes out that he was offering something like our pick + Markov + Koivu (or some other crazy combination of assets a la Lecavalier rumours), then ok, flame away...

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06-25-2013, 09:46 PM
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this seems quite unlikely since Gainey was hands off at the draft.

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06-25-2013, 09:47 PM
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Pretty much. Though, I don't think the media would have considered a trade involving MAF for Koivu a bad thing, considering how much they love the former and hated (too strong?) the latter.
for Fleury? i don't know if there is any combination of assets we had at the time the loudest portions of the media, and fan base, wouldn't have been fine giving up...

and then in year two, when he was shaking under the pressure, they'd be crucifying him on a daily basis... and so it goes in habland

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06-25-2013, 09:49 PM
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this seems quite unlikely since Gainey was hands off at the draft.
However, starting off his tenure with a highly touted Quebecois prospect falls in line with his attempt to acquire Lecavalier, a fading Quebecois star, during the draft in Montreal.

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06-25-2013, 09:52 PM
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2010-2011.
What has Price done for us lately? Not too ****ing much. How Gainey has a job in hockey management is beyond me. I had such faith in the man and he let me down big time. Horrible GM even worse than the goat.

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06-25-2013, 09:57 PM
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A thread that goes back into the past and deals with "What Ifs" never ends well............

The dog is sleeping peacefully. Just let him lay there.

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06-25-2013, 10:03 PM
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I love how this turned into a Price thread. Because we don't have enough of those.
Talk about sensitive.

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06-25-2013, 10:03 PM
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How many people are trashing Gainey in this thread, but were applauding him back in the day?

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