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04-25-2013, 06:36 PM
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If you're in a position to take Monahan, it means you can also pick Nurse, Zadorov, Pulock and Ristolainen.
So Laughton and one of these dmen as opposed to Klefbom and Monahan/Barkov, for example? Interesting take, but I think both teams are better served by standing pat.

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06-26-2013, 12:05 AM
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Going through my old threads and figured I'd give it a bump.. Would Klefbom/Gernat/Marincin be fair?

And if you're looking for a good laugh, this thread delivers.

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06-26-2013, 12:10 AM
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Going through my old threads and figured I'd give it a bump.. Would Klefbom/Gernat/Marincin be fair?

And if you're looking for a good laugh, this thread delivers.
You got me. Did not notice it was an old thread. Laughton has all the tools to become a Flyers: he is put down already!

I read excellent reports. I would hold on to him unless overwhelming offer. Would not trade for prospects or backup goalie.

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This is probably the best thread I've seen on here. And for the guy who said pizza lunchables were not good, you missed out during lunch.

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06-26-2013, 01:46 AM
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so just that I understand

the oilers are giving up good prosepcts for a 31 year journeymen goalie who got traded to columbus from philly and has not played a game since the trade and is a UFA in the off season?

what am I missing--this is either a joke or a bump of a thread from three years ago
So I wasn't the only one who thought this.

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06-26-2013, 02:02 AM
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Klefbom for Laughton... helps both teams needs...
This is probably fair but may not be something either team would do. If the Flyers DO move Couturier then Laughton HAS to remain to become our 3rd line center. If the Flyers decide to keep Couturier then Laughton can be dealt. However, Edm NEEDS young developing dmen and I can't see them dealing him (even if this offer was fair) as he's the kind of guy they need to keep.

I think that a better option might be something like Laughton + pick (say a 3rd) for Edm 1st this year. I fully understand that this deal would have to be made at the time of the draft and that the centers Edm was looking at were off the board and they felt that Laughton would be a better option. The Flyers could potentially draft two top dmen in the first 11 picks this year and they keep Couturier too. This seems to me to be the most logical potential for a trade between the two teams.

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06-26-2013, 02:14 AM
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This is probably fair but may not be something either team would do. If the Flyers DO move Couturier then Laughton HAS to remain to become our 3rd line center. If the Flyers decide to keep Couturier then Laughton can be dealt. However, Edm NEEDS young developing dmen and I can't see them dealing him (even if this offer was fair) as he's the kind of guy they need to keep.

I think that a better option might be something like Laughton + pick (say a 3rd) for Edm 1st this year. I fully understand that this deal would have to be made at the time of the draft and that the centers Edm was looking at were off the board and they felt that Laughton would be a better option. The Flyers could potentially draft two top dmen in the first 11 picks this year and they keep Couturier too. This seems to me to be the most logical potential for a trade between the two teams.
I'm happy with Monahan or Nurse as they both fill a need.

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06-26-2013, 02:42 AM
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I'm happy with Monahan or Nurse as they both fill a need.
I can certainly understand that. You guys NEED more defenseman prospects too. In reality Laughton probably doesn't have 2nd line center upside so I can't really see the NEED for him. If you are fine with Gagner as your #2 (there seems to be some mixed feeling among Edm fans regarding this) then it's a matter or weighing whether someone like Nurse would help you long term more than a shut-down center for the 3rd line (like Laughton) would. I'm not trying to tell you guys what you SHOULD do, but this was the only scenario that made much sense to me for Edm acquiring Laughton.

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06-26-2013, 02:47 AM
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Klefbom for Laughton... helps both teams needs...
seem pretty fair

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06-26-2013, 06:17 AM
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So this thread is basically Edmonton fans wanting our best prospect but not wanting to give up anything for him.

It's like reading a Toronto thread.

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Klefbom for Laughton is fair. However, as an Oiler fan I wouldn't do it until I see where we end up drafting. If we are in a position to take Monahan or Barkov the deal makes little sense.
I think the better fit for both teams would be Laughton and the Flyers 1st for our 1st . Flyers get Nurse for sure , we add a centre and use the Flyers pick to grab another C . Keep in mind that i do not know where the Flyers are drafting . I do not follow them . If they are at 9th we would probably have to add a 2nd too for this to be fair


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So this thread is basically Edmonton fans wanting our best prospect but not wanting to give up anything for him.

It's like reading a Toronto thread.
And yet when the offer was Marincin plus a second this was scoffed as low ball. Laughton admittedly had an outstanding in the OHL but Marincin, who is only one year older, was the best defensemen on the AHL Barons, a team that came within a hair of making it to the Calder cup final losing out to the eventual winner.

Marincin is a 6'5" left handed puck moving defenseman who can really skate and who has an excellent offensive game already. What was most surprising was how well he played defensively, especially in the playoffs. Flyer fans would not make this trade but as an Oiler fan I would not either given that they already have Lander who is a rather similar player. The potential upgrade to Laughton is not worth Marincin to me, especially if the Oiler had to add a 2nd in such a deep draft.

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Bump. I would imagine a deal involving Laughton for Klefbom/Marincin makes even more sense now with the recent acquisition of Lecavalier by Philly and the selection of Nurse by Edmonton in the draft, giving them a logjam of D prospects. Further thoughts?

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Bump. I would imagine a deal involving Laughton for Klefbom/Marincin makes even more sense now with the recent acquisition of Lecavalier by Philly and the selection of Nurse by Edmonton in the draft, giving them a logjam of D prospects. Further thoughts?
Deal.

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07-02-2013, 07:41 PM
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Laughton for Klefbom sounds good to me.

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Yup, I've been advocating a Laughton/Klefbom deal.

Coburn+Laughton for MPS+Klefbom just seems fair. I get that Edmonton doesn't want to deal Klefbom, though. I wouldn't expect them to give him up.

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So this thread is basically Edmonton fans wanting our best prospect but not wanting to give up anything for him.

It's like reading a Toronto thread.
Kind of like where Philly fans want our only blue chip D prospect and are offering a center who, based on Philly fans mind you, doesn't have 2nd line upside? That kind of thread you mean?

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Laughton + 3rd for Klefbom?

Laughton I think is going to be a very good 3C or a decent 2C.

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Yup, I've been advocating a Laughton/Klefbom deal.

Coburn+Laughton for MPS+Klefbom just seems fair. I get that Edmonton doesn't want to deal Klefbom, though. I wouldn't expect them to give him up.
Edmonton can't afford to deal Klefbom. Even if we're getting a top 4 D back we're shipping out our most NHL ready D prospect who has #2 upside. Simply having Nurse in the cupboard doesn't make Klefbom expendable.

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Laughton + 3rd for Klefbom?

Laughton I think is going to be a very good 3C or a decent 2C.
And Klefbom is going to be a very good #3-4 or a decent #2 D. Which would you value higher...potential 2nd line C or potential 1st pairing D? There's always the option for Edmonton to pair 2 #2 guys down the road in Schultz/Klefbom while Nurse develops. He's not available.

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Kind of like where Philly fans want our only blue chip D prospect and are offering a center who, based on Philly fans mind you, doesn't have 2nd line upside? That kind of thread you mean?
Laughton most certainly has 2C upside. Phlocky is the only person I have seen who has said otherwise, but he's notorious for "overcompensating" as a Flyers fan. Guess that's not the worst quality you could have on HF.

But, as far as upside goes, Laughton is built in the same mold as a Mike Richards or a David Backes. If all goes according to plan, he'd be a clone of Richards; they certainly have a very similar skill set. At the very least, Laughton will be a hell of a third line center who can crash, bang, and play responsibly in each zone.

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Edmonton can't afford to deal Klefbom. Even if we're getting a top 4 D back we're shipping out our most NHL ready D prospect who has #2 upside. Simply having Nurse in the cupboard doesn't make Klefbom expendable.
That's totally fair. I don't think anybody expects you to give a player up just because you got a new one. Although the way the trade boards are with Couturier/Schenn right now, you'd think otherwise.

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Would the Oilers be interested in Brendan Gaunce?? Not sure what you would want to give up for him though.

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Laughton for Klefbom is fair value.

however.

I think the flyers will need some cheap forwards for the bottom six in the next couple of years and laughton could serve a valuable role in that capacity. Other forwards such as noebels akeson, might not be able to hang around long term.

IN terms of cheap D we have gus, laurison, and in a couple of years ghost. Maybe even Hagg.

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Kind of like where Philly fans want our only blue chip D prospect and are offering a center who, based on Philly fans mind you, doesn't have 2nd line upside? That kind of thread you mean?
The guy who suggested this has an Oiler avatar.

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