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06-26-2013, 12:10 PM
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I don't see Detroit giving up Tootoo, Detroit needs him. He brings them energy, toughness, and he can put up numbers to.
As a Wings fan i would love to hold on to Tootoo as well, But there saying that he is on the trade block and theres no room for him the 4th line is pretty well set there in Detroit and Tootoo is'nt part of it i guess.

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06-26-2013, 12:20 PM
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Malone and 3rd OV
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Hemsky and 7th OV and 56 OV.

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06-26-2013, 12:22 PM
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As a Wings fan i would love to hold on to Tootoo as well, But there saying that he is on the trade block and theres no room for him the 4th line is pretty well set there in Detroit and Tootoo is'nt part of it i guess.
I am a Wings fan as well, and i think Detroit needs to work on there 3rd/4th line. I think they need to get rid of Samulssen, Eaves, and i wanted to see miller go to. But if they brought in some hard nosed, willing to block shots type of players, they will be perfect. Like a player like Greg Campbell. They need those players not players like Eaves, Samulssen.

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06-26-2013, 12:24 PM
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Gotta think that Malone should be a relatively easy move... since his actual salary drops 2.5mil for the next two years. This seems like a snowang Isles special. 4.5 mil hit and only 2.5 mil in salary.

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06-26-2013, 12:24 PM
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Malone and 3rd OV
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Why does everyone from Edmonton think we want to add cap by trading Malone

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06-26-2013, 12:34 PM
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Klesla is very solid, a blueline warrior. Not the most durable guy, but a lot of his recent injuries have been freak stuff. Still very reliable on PK and in shutdown situations, but he's stuck playing bottom pairing minutes behind OEL and Yandle on the left, and although he's very capable playing on the right, the emergence of Stone has made him redundant. $3 million for a bottom pairing/depth defenseman is a luxury we simply can't afford. On the last year of his contract as well, so he's going to be moved at some point this season.

Klesla for Malone and a swap of 2nds should work favorably for both sides. Klesla provides some much needed physicality + shutdown ability to the Bolts blueline, Bolts free up money by losing Malone's cap hit, and Yotes get a potential 20+ goal scorer + versatile winger who's been consistently good on the PP throughout his career.
I would think that Kesla would have signficant trade value at the trade deadline, but that's just IMO. This would be a really good deal from TB's perspective - help stabilize the blueline with a solid vet, and flip him at the TD if the team isn't in contnention.

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06-26-2013, 12:41 PM
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I would think that Kesla would have signficant trade value at the trade deadline, but that's just IMO. This would be a really good deal from TB's perspective - help stabilize the blueline with a solid vet, and flip him at the TD if the team isn't in contnention.
True, I think Klesla is a generally more effective defenseman than Douglas Murray and Murray got 2 2nds for San Jose. But a 20+ goal power forward (when healthy) who's good on the PP and costs almost 500K less in salary + moving up 9 spots in this year's 2nd is a good return for Klesla as well.

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06-26-2013, 12:42 PM
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I'm another Yotes fan who likes the idea of Klesla for Malone.

Malone's NTC is troubling, though. Would he go to Phoenix? His dad worked there for a long time, and his buddy Mike Smith is here (at the moment). I'd expect they've got good things to say about the club.

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06-26-2013, 12:44 PM
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I would think that Kesla would have signficant trade value at the trade deadline, but that's just IMO. This would be a really good deal from TB's perspective - help stabilize the blueline with a solid vet, and flip him at the TD if the team isn't in contnention.
I'm surprised no one mentions Tampa's cap challenges. As of right now they only have 18 players under contract and just $2.4 million of cap-space. Malone is going to get moved for futures or a very inexpensive roster player(s.)

On another note, $2.5 million in actual salary versus his $4.5 million cap-hit makes him attractive. It doesn't have to be just cap-floor teams. There is plenty of middle ground between the cap-floor and the cap-ceiling.

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Malone for Klesla sounds good to me

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I'm another Yotes fan who likes the idea of Klesla for Malone.

Malone's NTC is troubling, though. Would he go to Phoenix? His dad worked there for a long time, and his buddy Mike Smith is here (at the moment). I'd expect they've got good things to say about the club.
Rumor has it that Malone has no desire to play in the West he already turned down a deal 2 years ago to play in Vancouver when Tampa Bay was trying to clear some space to go after Brad Richards again and he would'nt waive his NTC to go there. I have heard and read that he only wants to play in the East.

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I'm surprised no one mentions Tampa's cap challenges. As of right now they only have 18 players under contract and just $2.4 million of cap-space. Malone is going to get moved for futures or a very inexpensive roster player(s.)

On another note, $2.5 million in actual salary versus his $4.5 million cap-hit makes him attractive. It doesn't have to be just cap-floor teams. There is plenty of middle ground between the cap-floor and the cap-ceiling.
Klesla's caphit is $1.5M less than Malone's. Veteran Top 4 stay-at-home defenders like Klesla don't really clock in any cheaper. He's pretty much exactly what Tampa needs on their blueline, and should be a steady, stabilizing presence.

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Klesla's caphit is $1.5M less than Malone's. Veteran Top 4 stay-at-home defenders like Klesla don't really clock in any cheaper. He's pretty much exactly what Tampa needs on their blueline, and should be a steady, stabilizing presence.
This, plus if Klesla's incoming, TB gets the green light to clear out another 3.8m with an Eric Brewer buyout.

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Klesla's caphit is $1.5M less than Malone's. Veteran Top 4 stay-at-home defenders like Klesla don't really clock in any cheaper. He's pretty much exactly what Tampa needs on their blueline, and should be a steady, stabilizing presence.
Saving $1.5 million means that Tampa would then have $3.9 million in cap-space with an 18-man roster, only nine forwards signed while Klesla would be the 7th d-man under contract, eight if they qualify Aulie.

On the surface it looks like a good hockey trade but other moves would have to be made to accomodate this one. Easier said than done.

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06-26-2013, 01:12 PM
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Accidentally posted this deal by accident the the Horton thread.

How would the Lightning feel about Malone + 33rd overall for Horak + 67th overall.

You take the hit and move down a round in a deep draft, but unload Malone and pick up a solid 3rd line guys in the process.

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Why? We could probably get just a pick for JML.

3rd(ish) + Clarkson > Malone
i disagree, i think malone is a proper top 6 winger. he averages around ~50 points/season. clarkson is not as consistent but contributes in other ways but doesnt put up as many points.

either way malone at $4.5 milion x 2 years better then clarkson at $5.5 x 5 years.

the leafs have enough cap room that they could possibly get both? id have to think they are both carlyle type players?


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Klesla's caphit is $1.5M less than Malone's. Veteran Top 4 stay-at-home defenders like Klesla don't really clock in any cheaper. He's pretty much exactly what Tampa needs on their blueline, and should be a steady, stabilizing presence.
I would do it personally in a heart beat just not sure if Malone will waive his NTC for Phoenix he already turned down a move 2 years ago for Vancouver But you never know back then he knew he was still going to play for Tampa Bay but now he knows he's a goner.

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I bet David Poile is looking hard at this. He has said he wants to get bigger and if Tampa is offering a pick it sweetens the pot.

Rights to Blum and Halischuk

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Malone and 4th
A lot of good offers in this thread but this is my favorite. Tampa Bay has needed a right handed PMD for years and Blum has at least a chance to become a pretty good NHLer. Halischuk I don't really care about but I'd take him if needed.

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Accidentally posted this deal by accident the the Horton thread.

How would the Lightning feel about Malone + 33rd overall for Horak + 67th overall.

You take the hit and move down a round in a deep draft, but unload Malone and pick up a solid 3rd line guys in the process.
Not interested when compared to these other offers, where we actually fill holes in the process

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Malone and 3rd OV
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Hemsky and 7th OV and 56 OV.
As an oiler fan, I jump all over that

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As an oiler fan, I jump all over that
Obviously, because it's terrible for Tampa.

Blum + 3rd for Malone + 2nd sounds great to me.

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Tampa does NOT want any forwards back that play above the 4th line. Only forward I am interested in this thread so far is Tootoo.
Tampa does NOT want a big trade or big salary coming back.
The Klesla and Blum offers seem pretty decent.

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Ballard for Malone

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I'd take him in Colorado if we weren't already so jammed up front, I bet he'd waive to play with his cousin.

Maybe at the deadline once we evaluate some of our players.

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Ballard for Malone
I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Lightning acquired Ballard due to Bowness but I doubt we would trade for him.

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