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06-24-2013, 11:44 AM
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Let's not forget the 4y-27mil contract Tallon gave Khabibulin in Chicago either.
I fail to see what's wrong with that signing. At that time Khabi was a bona-fide number 1 playing on a terrible rebuilding Hawks team.

Now the 4 years 22.5 million he gave to Huet, now that's a different story.

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I dont care what he did in Chicago anymore...he ends up getting blamed for every bad move there and zero credit for any of the good moves there. Honestly, all that matters now is what he does for the Panthers and thats what we should be looking at only. Every GM in the league is gonna have bad signings and its just a matter of how many good signings there are that counter those bad ones.
From what I can see, that fanbase has zero respect for DT and Bowman. All they do is complain about 'em.

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06-24-2013, 11:56 PM
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LOL @ the Canuck's fans. Anything to dump crap. More like Upshall, Kuba and Jovo for Luo, Ballard and Hansen.

What if, and this is a big what if, Tort's goes with Luo over Schneider? Wouldn't that throw a stick into the spokes of Vancouver and Luongo.

I honestly don't think we trade for Luo, unless its cap hit for cap hit. I still feel he will be bought out.
personally, I'd take your offer...though surprised just how unproductimve Upshall turned out to be....what was the big injury or downward spiral since Pheonix days?

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06-25-2013, 11:58 PM
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personally, I'd take your offer...though surprised just how unproductimve Upshall turned out to be....what was the big injury or downward spiral since Pheonix days?
Not really a big injury, just hampered by many injuries. I think it's just his style of play catching up to him. He seems to have a new injury every time he comes back.

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06-26-2013, 12:13 AM
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With Philly buying out Bryz, I could see them trading for Luongo if they can send a another one of their big contracts the other way. They've cleared plenty of cap room now.

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06-26-2013, 03:28 AM
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With Philly buying out Bryz, I could see them trading for Luongo if they can send a another one of their big contracts the other way. They've cleared plenty of cap room now.
Holmgren said he doesn't see it happening yesterday in the press conference about Bryz's buyout.

And to be honest, neither do I. Flyers managed to get a get out of jail for free -card with Bryz. There will be no one to bail them out when Luongo reaches the final years of that deal.

First when I thought about it, I would have said Miller. But now that I've put some more effort into it, I'd say Emery at this point. He's familiar with the organization already and left on good terms because of the serious injury he was struggling with.

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06-26-2013, 03:49 AM
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what about florida signing bryz for a few years? or will hej ust bolt away to KHL giving up on NHL?

or does he just sign with a contender

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06-26-2013, 03:57 AM
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what about florida signing bryz for a few years? or will hej ust bolt away to KHL giving up on NHL?

or does he just sign with a contender
Bryz is going to the KHL. No sane GM is going to offer him a number 1 job after the antics he pulled off with Flyers, and his ego won't settle for a backup job.

He's a cancer and I don't want him anywhere near Markie.

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06-26-2013, 02:59 PM
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So, let's get a 6.7 million dollar backup just because we missed out on some prospect? Makes sense.

And Vancouver isn't retaining salary, they're a cap ceiling team contending for the cup. Retaining salary would be a massive blow to their cap structure and weaken their ability to improve the team through FA/trades.

His cap hit is 5.3333 not 6.7

It doesnt matter what his salary is.... are you signging the cheque? NOPE. ...
In terms of how your team competes...the cap hit is what you have to look at. 5.333 per year isnt bad. Contract length is horrible..but the avg hit is actually below what he's worth.

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06-26-2013, 03:10 PM
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His cap hit is 5.3333 not 6.7

It doesnt matter what his salary is.... are you signging the cheque? NOPE. ...
In terms of how your team competes...the cap hit is what you have to look at. 5.333 per year isnt bad. Contract length is horrible..but the avg hit is actually below what he's worth.
Budget teams always look at the salary first, not the caphit. The caphit is irrelevant to a team like FLA, since we're nowhere near the cap ceiling.

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06-26-2013, 03:29 PM
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Budget teams always look at the salary first, not the caphit. The caphit is irrelevant to a team like FLA, since we're nowhere near the cap ceiling.
Weird.

I've been a member at HF for years now and just today I accidentally stumbled on the page that shows birthdays.

Also, I don't think I've even visited the Florida board before today... just popped in to gauge reaction to Luongo and junk.

Anyways..

Happy Birthday complete stranger!

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06-26-2013, 03:55 PM
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Weird.

I've been a member at HF for years now and just today I accidentally stumbled on the page that shows birthdays.

Also, I don't think I've even visited the Florida board before today... just popped in to gauge reaction to Luongo and junk.

Anyways..

Happy Birthday complete stranger!
Well thank you, stranger.

Jovo also has his b-day today, grats to Jovo on 37.

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06-26-2013, 04:38 PM
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Any word on contract negotiations with Markstrom?

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06-26-2013, 04:57 PM
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Well thank you, stranger.

Jovo also has his b-day today, grats to Jovo on 37.
Happy birthday Soup!!!

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06-26-2013, 05:06 PM
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Happy birthday Soup!!!
What Laus said! Happy birthday man.

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06-26-2013, 05:20 PM
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What Laus said! Happy birthday man.
No love for Jovo? Stay classy boys.

Thanks guys.

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06-26-2013, 05:36 PM
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And Vancouver isn't retaining salary, they're a cap ceiling team contending for the cup. Retaining salary would be a massive blow to their cap structure and weaken their ability to improve the team through FA/trades.
Vancouver is more than a cap ceiling team... Vancouver is a team that cut a hole through the cap ceiling... On paper, the Canucks have been operating above the cap for a few years... The only negative impact has been the odd player movement between the AHL and NHL... It's like the Canucks operate with "probability of injury" into the salary cap equation... The Canucks have a cap "expert" in Gilman, who's done an outstanding job to date managing the cap...

Up until now, this was done to ice the most expensive roster possible... The new mantra is younger, bigger, more powerful (i.e. great entry level contract players)... I think the Canucks would be prepared to operate similarly, retaining salary, for the "right" return (entry level contract player(s))... provided it's between $.5m to $1m salary retained... It wouldn't weaken the Canucks ability to improve the team through free agency or trades... It would, theoretically, give the Canucks the same cap room as every other team... with the Luongo salary retention being kept in that hole in the ceiling... The reason the Canucks haven't done this, to date, is because they didn't want to retain salary (it's obviously better if they don't do it)... But if the Canucks can exponentially increase the return from a cap concerned team as a result, I think they'd be prepared to do it...

For a team like Florida though, the salary retained doesn't really matter... I'd imagine the higher the bad contract returning, the better (in terms of squeezing value out of Luongo)...

One thing that won't happen, is Luongo will not be bought out...

Edit: Happy Birthday, btw


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06-26-2013, 07:40 PM
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No love for Jovo? Stay classy boys.

Thanks guys.
I should warn you guys for being off topic in this thread, but that just doesn't seem right.

So now you are officially on topic.

Happy birthday!

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06-26-2013, 07:46 PM
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It's Soupy's birthday?



Happy Birthday, mang

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06-26-2013, 08:02 PM
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Seems I am more popular around here than the team captain. Suck it Phan.. ehm, Jovo.

Thanks guys.

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Ah ****, happy belated Soupy

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Happy B-day Soup!

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Happy Birthday Soupy. Who do you want Dale to pick for your birthday?

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Budget teams always look at the salary first, not the caphit. The caphit is irrelevant to a team like FLA, since we're nowhere near the cap ceiling.
How is Luongo's contract structured? When his salary will be lower than cap hit? Remember next season's cap is artificially low and will make a big jump for 2014-15 season (based on revenue predictions) and floor will also make a big jump.

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How is Luongo's contract structured? When his salary will be lower than cap hit? Remember next season's cap is artificially low and will make a big jump for 2014-15 season (based on revenue predictions) and floor will also make a big jump.

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Happy Birthday Soupy. Who do you want Dale to pick for your birthday?
Wow! A birthday thread AND a Heimy sighting?? Must be a blue moon!

How you been?!?

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