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10-18-2006, 08:06 PM
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Can someone tell me what KOVALEV is doing on the PK?

Really, what the heck is he doing there, he's been on the PK the last three games?

He's not much of a defensive asset

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10-18-2006, 08:15 PM
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Can someone tell me what THIS is doing in a separate thread?

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10-18-2006, 08:17 PM
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Really, what the heck is he doing there, he's been on the PK the last three games?

He's not much of a defensive asset
Playing the PK, you have to move your feets, hustling and play intensive... Carbo probably wants Kovalev more in the game, thats why he uses him on PK.

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can anybody tell me anything?

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-I'm a firm believer that chip dip is redundant.

-If Brett Hull can kill penalties then so too can Kovalev.

-Maybe Carbo's getting over-confident with the Hab's penalty killing success?

Edit: this reply is all over the place, and for that, I am very sorry.

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10-18-2006, 08:41 PM
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Well you want people who understand how space can be exploited, and Kovalev is one of the best in the league at that. I suspect that his understanding of how he gets open helps shut the opposing team down.

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They often put him on late in the pk so that when its back 5 on 5 we have a offensive attack somewhat ready.

Watching the habs pk you can tell they spend alot of time practicing it because its that good.

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10-18-2006, 09:18 PM
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Really, what the heck is he doing there, he's been on the PK the last three games?

He's not much of a defensive asset
I'll tell you what he's doing...he's killing penalties...


CLOSE THE THREAD....


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10-18-2006, 09:19 PM
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With the number of penalties, Carbo don't want Kovy to stay on the bench a lot of consecutive minutes so he use him a bit on the PK to let is body warm

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Well you want people who understand how space can be exploited, and Kovalev is one of the best in the league at that. I suspect that his understanding of how he gets open helps shut the opposing team down.
Very good response!

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I've only ever seen him out there with 30 seconds left on the PK or less.

And I could be wrong, but im pretty sure we have more Short handed goals then power play goals against.

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I would not complain about our PK. Aren't we 2nd or something like that?

If we would be 30th like in the dark days, okay. But not now.

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We have the 2nd best PK in the league (1st before yesterday's game) yet you still find something to complain about.

and then people say montreal has dumb fans.

If we had teh 2nd worst PK i would understand.. but it's working, so who cares?

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10-18-2006, 10:39 PM
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Really, what the heck is he doing there, he's been on the PK the last three games?

He's not much of a defensive asset

Looks like you haven't followed Kovalev's career a lot, seeing in PK isn't new AT ALL except that last year Julien and Bob decided not the use him in PK anymore .
Kovalev can be good in PK since he is fast enough to go mess around with the puckholder and/or move backwards etc.

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10-18-2006, 10:44 PM
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Kovalev is underrated defensively. One of his big strengths is that once he gets his stick on the puck in the defensive zone, he'll often gain control of it and protect it enough to neutralize the attack.

He can be accused of not backchecking, but on the PK this is not a factor (and, really, hasn't been much of one this season 5-on-5 either.)

He was on the PK with Koivu fairly often at the beginning of last season.

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10-18-2006, 10:47 PM
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Kovalev is killing a penalty. PK comes from the greek word Penalticus Cunnilingus and means "to pass the time"

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10-18-2006, 10:55 PM
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Kovalev is underrated defensively. One of his big strengths is that once he gets his stick on the puck in the defensive zone, he'll often gain control of it and protect it enough to neutralize the attack.

He can be accused of not backchecking, but on the PK this is not a factor (and, really, hasn't been much of one this season 5-on-5 either.)

He was on the PK with Koivu fairly often at the beginning of last season.
Yep exactly I can still remember, Talking about Kovalev...what are they waiting for to put Kovalev at the blue line in the PP? I mean he was very sucessful there with the pens/rangers

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10-18-2006, 10:58 PM
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Yep exactly I can still remember, Talking about Kovalev...what are they waiting for to put Kovalev at the blue line in the PP? I mean he was very sucessful there with the pens/rangers
I presume you mean PK, and I agree. Having Kovalev up on the point is great because he can burn them if they make a mistake. Having Bonk up there (though he did score shorthanded last night) just isn't as threatening.

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Kovalev is doing what the coach asked him to. His best

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10-18-2006, 11:14 PM
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Talking about Kovalev...what are they waiting for to put Kovalev at the blue line in the PP? I mean he was very sucessful there with the pens/rangers
1- The Habs have a few good point D-Men (Souray, Markov)
2- Kovalev has been highly effective manning the boards
3- Kovalev has been used on the point on the PP, and remains an option if someone (usually Markov) is injured, but the opposing teams figured him out and started challenging him at the blueline and he'd shoot in their skates.

The Habs have a fairly effective PP as it is, there's little point in messing with it.

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10-18-2006, 11:15 PM
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Really, what the heck is he doing there, he's been on the PK the last three games?

He's not much of a defensive asset
Did the Hawks score any PP goals with him on the PK? No. Did they notice him and try to keep the puck away from him? Yes.

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1- The Habs have a few good point D-Men (Souray, Markov)
2- Kovalev has been highly effective manning the boards
3- Kovalev has been used on the point on the PP, and remains an option if someone (usually Markov) is injured, but the opposing teams figured him out and started challenging him at the blueline and he'd shoot in their skates.

The Habs have a fairly effective PP as it is, there's little point in messing with it.

Exactly..Kovalev on the PP controls the boards, and was so good about it is that with one move he ends up in the slot by himself for a big shot. (for example:the game winner last night)

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Kovalev is underrated defensively. One of his big strengths is that once he gets his stick on the puck in the defensive zone, he'll often gain control of it and protect it enough to neutralize the attack.

He can be accused of not backchecking
, but on the PK this is not a factor (and, really, hasn't been much of one this season 5-on-5 either.)

He was on the PK with Koivu fairly often at the beginning of last season.
Being 'rated' as good defensively, implies backchecking. It's as simple as that.

There's a difference between being aggressive on the PK, ie. being able to read plays and create dangerous turnovers, than there is being good defensively, which is basically hustling your butt off and outworking your opponent.

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Being 'rated' as good defensively, implies backchecking. It's as simple as that.
There's more to defense than rushing back after a turnover. It does no good to try to defend if you can't get the puck out of your zone. This is where Kovalev excels; if he gets the puck he'll usually control it then get it out, and I've seen that defuse many a dangerous-looking attack on the Habs since the start of last season. It's a crucial PK skill -- and I've lost track of the times I've rolled my eyes at a player with time and space getting rid of the puck too quickly on the PK and failing an easy clearout.

Ultimately it's a moot point so far this year because Kovalev has been backchecking...

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