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06-27-2013, 12:13 PM
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The guy trying to feed us his opinion like a fact is telling me not to put words in his mouth. Gotcha.

And I get it. Besides the 5th overall pick, Carolina doesn't have any more enticing pieces left to offer for Marc...

You're in love with this pick. Get over it.
I also have said that I don't care if we trade Staal or not, just hypothesizing. I personally think this top 5 is good, and that's my opinion. I'm not shoving down anyone's throat. You're the one who needs to get over it.

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06-27-2013, 12:13 PM
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Vincent Richards is Brad Lecavalier. Please god no.
without a contract til 2020.. Do u guys think he's gonna get another mega deal or something?

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06-27-2013, 12:14 PM
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I'm not trading Staal for any prospect or draft pick, I dont care what "ceiling" they may have after thinking long and hard about it.. Drouin included. I want a top 6 player in return who produces now.

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06-27-2013, 12:15 PM
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and from the sounds of it, you disagree with everything, so you would sit on your *** and do nothing and think the kids are going to bring the team a SC. There is absolutely zero reason not to look into anything and everything that could help the team.
Do me a favor and look at your post history for 5 min.

It's a cluster**** of players that you want. Fairytale trade scenarios which make no sense. Free agents that'll be overpaid like whoa.

You want almost every single player available. And some that are not available.

All you care about, is that shiny new toy. And then when the shine wears off you want another one. And another one.

I want to see some changes. But unlike you, I don't have this wishlist of guys who I believe will lead us to pure dominance. A wishlist that changes every 15 minutes when a new rumor hits twitter.

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06-27-2013, 12:17 PM
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Do me a favor and look at your post history for 5 min.

It's a cluster**** of players that you want. Fairytale trade scenarios which make no sense. Free agents that'll be overpaid like whoa.

You want almost every single player available. And some that are not available.

All you care about, is that shiny new toy. And then when the shine wears off you want another one. And another one.

I want to see some changes. But unlike you, I don't have this wishlist of guys who I believe will lead us to pure dominance. A wishlist that changes every 15 minutes when a new rumor hits twitter.

Who exactly did I "want" thats not even available?

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06-27-2013, 12:19 PM
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06-27-2013, 12:20 PM
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without a contract til 2020.. Do u guys think he's gonna get another mega deal or something?
Yes. He is the best center in free agency. 6 x 6 or something absurd like that. If I were Vinny though, I'd sign a 1 yr deal with the Hawks and play the 2C role on that team to pad up his stats. Then return for a big contract from Glen Sather.

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I hope he stays there. Maybe he will get a Kunitz-like deal. 3.5-4 million/season

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06-27-2013, 12:21 PM
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Kim Staal is on his way to Carolina as we speak. 4/5 Dregerfaces.
If you squint your eyes he kind of looks like Marc. You gotta squint real hard though. The harder you squint, the more obvious it becomes.



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I also have said that I don't care if we trade Staal or not, just hypothesizing. I personally think this top 5 is good, and that's my opinion. I'm not shoving down anyone's throat. You're the one who needs to get over it.
You said we can trade Staal w/o any consequences.


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06-27-2013, 12:24 PM
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Who exactly did I "want" thats not even available?
Look at your history. Take a 5 minute time out and just compile a list of names you 'want'.

We could have like, 3 different teams by the time the season starts with the additions you'd make if you were our GM.

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06-27-2013, 12:28 PM
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Clowe at 3M is something that should be easily negotiated, the rub is going to be the number of years. If Clowe is wiling to take a discount on the money, he'd probably would want more years.
As much as I want Clowe back, 5 years at 3M? Not sure I'd do that. 3 years at 3M is about as high as I'd go.
Would you give him Kunitz money over 3 years?

I would.

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Look at your history. Take a 5 minute time out and just compile a list of names you 'want'.

We could have like, 3 different teams by the time the season starts with the additions you'd make if you were our GM.
you said "thats not available".. who exactly fits that description. Everyone I would LOOK INTO or CONSIDER is either a UFA, bought out, or avaialble in a trade according to reports.

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06-27-2013, 12:30 PM
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Yes. He is the best center in free agency. 6 x 6 or something absurd like that. If I were Vinny though, I'd sign a 1 yr deal with the Hawks and play the 2C role on that team to pad up his stats. Then return for a big contract from Glen Sather.
Then obviously I'd stay away from that.

I think you guys may be in for a rude awakening though with some of the "estimates" you think these guys will get. The cap is going down, and teams are buying out players for the very reason of offering stupid contracts. I dont expect those stupid contracts to continue, only the very good to elite players will get paid.

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06-27-2013, 12:31 PM
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Would you give him Kunitz money over 3 years?

I would.
would not even think about touching clowe on a 3 year deal.

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06-27-2013, 12:32 PM
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Then obviously I'd stay away from that.

I think you guys may be in for a rude awakening though with some of the "estimates" you think these guys will get. The cap is going down, and teams are buying out players for the very reason of offering stupid contracts. I dont expect those stupid contracts to continue, only the very good to elite players will get paid.
Mark Streit just got 4 years, $5.25M per.

It's worse than ever.

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06-27-2013, 12:34 PM
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Mark Streit just got 4 years, $5.25M per.

It's worse than ever.
This.

Free Agents will continue to rake in the cash. Nothing has changed.

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06-27-2013, 12:35 PM
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Mark Streit just got 4 years, $5.25M per.

It's worse than ever.
Yes, thats horrible and so far thats only one example.. Look at the otehr guys who got paid so far, (Malkin, Couture, Shattenkirk, etc), guys who are top notch players. I think the 6 year + deals are behind us.

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06-27-2013, 12:35 PM
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Stay away from Lecavalier. Some people here will never learn.

Tampa has scary bad center depth after Stamkos now. Anyone else think they could trade down a spot or two on Sunday and take Barkov?

EDIT: If Holmgren dare crosses Sather by throwing an offer sheet at McDonagh or Stepan, they better watch their ***** with Giroux and Schenn next offseason. It's within the rules, but to throw an offer sheet at a player that puts the owning team in a position to handcuff themselves by matching, that's bush league.
Stepan, MDZ + Girardi for Hedman + the pick?

If unable to get McKinnon, which now seems likely, even for McD, then draft Jones.

Hedman Jones
McD Stralman
Moore McIlrath

Staal gets us 5th?
We are thin one C, but maybe can get creative, Pavelski in SJ, etc.

also, Canes don't want to give up 5th, are holding line at Skinner. Have said no to Faulk.
Believe Montreal wants Skinner.

Staal + to Canes
Montreal + to Canes
Skinner to Montreal
Faulk to Rangers

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06-27-2013, 12:36 PM
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Stepan, MDZ + Girardi for Hedman + the pick?

If unable to get McKinnon, which now seems likely, even for McD, then draft Jones.

Hedman Jones
McD Stralman
Moore McIlrath

Staal gets us 5th?
We are thin one C, but maybe can get creative, Pavelski in SJ, etc.

also, Canes don't want to give up 5th, are holding line at Skinner. Have said no to Faulk.
Believe Montreal wants Skinner.

Staal + to Canes
Montreal + to Canes
Skinner to Montreal
Faulk to Rangers
Bern, this is utterly ridiculous.

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Bern, this is utterly ridiculous.
not even worth responding to anymore.

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If you squint your eyes he kind of looks like Marc. You gotta squint real hard though. The harder you squint, the more obvious it becomes.





You said we can trade Staal w/o any consequences.
I said without drastic consequences, go back and look at that post again. There's obviously going to be some repercussions, but it's my opinion that we can afford to lose Staal. Even if it's not to CAR, we need a top 6 LW.

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06-27-2013, 12:39 PM
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Yes, thats horrible and so far thats only one example.. Look at the otehr guys who got paid so far, (Malkin, Couture, Shattenkirk, etc), guys who are top notch players. I think the 6 year + deals are behind us.
Two of those players are RFAs. Malkin gave Pittsburgh a hometown discount because he wants to be there, and what? It's an 8 years deal.

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06-27-2013, 12:44 PM
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Stepan, MDZ + Girardi for Hedman + the pick?

If unable to get McKinnon, which now seems likely, even for McD, then draft Jones.

Hedman Jones
McD Stralman
Moore McIlrath

Staal gets us 5th?
We are thin one C, but maybe can get creative, Pavelski in SJ, etc.

also, Canes don't want to give up 5th, are holding line at Skinner. Have said no to Faulk.
Believe Montreal wants Skinner.

Staal + to Canes
Montreal + to Canes
Skinner to Montreal
Faulk to Rangers
If Barkov is at that spot, I would do it. Hedman is a #1 dman.

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06-27-2013, 12:46 PM
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Chcago looking for cap space and may move Bolland

how about Bolland for Boyle? saves them a few million

Would give Stepan, Brassard, Bolland and maybe UFA Lapierre? Lindberg in CT

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06-27-2013, 12:47 PM
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Is this team possible?

Hagelin-Stepan-Nash
Kreider-Lecavlier-Callahan
Clowe-Brassard-MZA
Raymond-Lapierre-Dorsett

McDonagh-Girardi
Staal-MDZ
Moore-Stralman

I like this team

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