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Boychuk, Peverley, Koko package to EDM

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06-27-2013, 03:19 PM
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Boychuk, Peverley, Koko package to EDM

There are rumors that Boychuk is the odd man out when it comes to cap compliance and the bruins will go with 3 youngsters on the back end in Hamilton, Krug and Bart.

Boychuk is a great stay at home Dman who steps up in the playoffs and has a bomb of a clapper. Won't be a great partner for J Schultz since they are both righties but he can play the tough minutes well in order to let Justin handle 2nd and 3rd lines rather than top lines. He is an absolute warrior and it will seriously pain me to see him go. I'd rather let Horton walk than trade away Johnny but it doesn't look like that's the plan.

Pevs can fill Horcoffs spot as 3C. Can provide speed, great defense and PKing and can give that locker room a vet presence. Both Johnny and Pevs have lots of cup experience which is invaluable.

Koko is a nice sweetener. He absolutely dominated the O after WJCs on a bad Windsor team. He was at about 1.8 PPG. He centered Yaks line for Russia this past year at WJC and played LW with kuznetsov and yak the year before. He hasn't turned 20 yet, not until Sept, and could probably benefit from a year in the A with 10-15 games with the big club.

What is this package worth to you?

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06-27-2013, 03:21 PM
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Whitney+PRV+Pick

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What are Boston's needs?

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Whitney+PRV+Pick
by pick you mean the 7th overall?

I think Hemsky @ 50% retained would be a good fit for BOS.

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I would love this package from an Oiler perspective. I have no idea what Boston wants or needs though.

Hemsky with salary retained?
Paajarvi?
Draft picks?

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RW prospects/affordable contracts, D prospects, picks are the biggest needs. I'd love to get the 7th but probably can't. So something including the 37th.

And please no Whitney.

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7th, 37th and Belanger for Boychuk and Peverly, Koko

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06-27-2013, 03:40 PM
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I'm assuming Boston wants no part of NHL salaries so they can resign Horton and Rask. Lander, Musil, 2nd rnd pick (2013) +

one of,
rajala? VV? 1st rnd pick (2014)? Hartikainen rights? Hemsky (salary retained)?

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by pick you mean the 7th overall?

I think Hemsky @ 50% retained would be a good fit for BOS.
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I would love this package from an Oiler perspective. I have no idea what Boston wants or needs though.

Hemsky with salary retained?
Paajarvi?
Draft picks?
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RW prospects/affordable contracts, D prospects, picks are the biggest needs. I'd love to get the 7th but probably can't. So something including the 37th.

And please no Whitney.
I think assets like Hemsky @ 50%, second round picks, and D prospects like Musil or Gernat would be good talking points for a deal like this.

And dont worry, Whitney's a pending UFA.

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RW prospects/affordable contracts, D prospects, picks are the biggest needs. I'd love to get the 7th but probably can't. So something including the 37th.

And please no Whitney.
Martin Gernat (Huge Slovak Dman with plenty of offense) + Hartikainen (good BOS kinda player)+ Hemsky @ 50% (Krejci connection) + 37th

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7th, 37th and Belanger for Boychuk and Peverly, Koko
Replace the 7th with Paajarvi, drop Belanger, drop Koko, and you got a deal. It's tough losing Paajarvi and he will come back to burn us but we need depth guys. None better than Boychuk and Peverly.

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It's really hard to quantify a trade like that, especially since most Oiler fans probably havent had too much exposure to boston players/prospects.

Top 4D, #3C, and top 6C prospect? Id expect Boston would want 7th overall+ cheap depth roster player + top 4 D prospect (Marcinin maybe). If Im Edmonton, I dont do it, even though the trade fills quite a few needs for Edmonton.

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I think assets like Hemsky @ 50%, second round picks, and D prospects like Musil or Gernat would be good talking points for a deal like this.

And dont worry, Whitney's a pending UFA.
not sure how many times it needs to be said but Hemsky is of NO intrest to Boston.

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not sure how many times it needs to be said but Hemsky is of NO intrest to Boston.
why not? You have a link stating that? Hemsky IMO would be a better fit than Jagr. Dont know about playoffs but Hemsky should help BOS during regular season creating plays.

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It's really hard to quantify a trade like that, especially since most Oiler fans probably havent had too much exposure to boston players/prospects.

Top 4D, #3C, and top 6C prospect? Id expect Boston would want 7th overall+ cheap depth roster player + top 4 D prospect (Marcinin maybe). If Im Edmonton, I dont do it, even though the trade fills quite a few needs for Edmonton.
BOS needs to clear salary and would not be asking for the 7th overall + a top prospect like Marincin.

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BOS needs to clear salary and would not be asking for the 7th overall + a top prospect like Marincin.
I think they would ask for it, but considering their need to clear salary it wouldnt happen. Just depends on how many suitors they have that will be willing to take on cap.

The biggest thing working against them is that every team sees Boston as a contender. IMO no team with a remote chance of playoffs would make a move that would benefit Boston, as to win a cup, it's pretty likely that team will have to go through Boston.

It'll be interesting to see what happens.

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I would say Hemsky isn't a great fit in Boston but we are seriously lacking NHL ready RWs so for 50% retained who knows. Probably wont happen, though.

I like MPaj but we are jam packed at LW with Looch, Marchy, fellow Swede Soderberg, and Paille who had an excellent POs.

I'm interested in your 3D prospects. Theyre all huge. Which of Musil, Marancin and Gernat have the most pop? Like tenacity and physical play.

I think we are excellent trading partners this offseason. You're about to turn the corner and need vet leadership and steady play to get you into the POs and we need to get younger and shed some money.

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I'm interested in your 3D prospects. Theyre all huge. Which of Musil, Marancin and Gernat have the most pop? Like tenacity and physical play.
Musil.

Gernat is scrawny and offensive minded.

Marincin is rounding out his game right now and is probably the best of the three.

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7th, 37th and Belanger for Boychuk and Peverly, Koko
Might be an overpayment from the Oilers' perspective. Doubt the Bruins have interest in Belanger.

I don't believe the Bruins will try to move Boychuk unless they feel they absolutely have to. Until we hear how contract negotiations are going w/ Horton and Rask (besides rumors), it's difficult to place a number on how much salary the Bruins will have to clear.

Boychuk was one of the B's best defensemen this season - particularly in the playoffs. He showed he was capable of shouldering a significant load defensively. While he's no slouch in the attacking zone, his value comes from being a physically capable defense-first guy who can handle tough matchups. At best he's a borderline 2/3 guy. At worst he's a 3/4 with gusto. His contract (while it was initially laughed-off) is actually quite reasonable as a upper-middle paring guy.

While Boston's young defensemen proved themselves worthy of increased opportunities going forward, I'm not sure Chiarelli or Julien will be thrilled to head into camp with a top-six comprised of Chara, Seidenberg, McQuaid and three guys with a combined games played total of well under 100.

All that said, if Edmonton offered the 7th and 37th for Boychuk, Pevs and Koko - that's tremendous value. At worst, they'd be getting a guy like Lindholm, Monahan or Nurse who represent great value that late. At best, they'd get a fantastic faller (Nichushkin?) with ginormous upside. (Not to mention an early second-rounder in a very deep class).

Realistically, this won't happen. (IMO) Boston comes up short in value here. Koko's a good prospect but arguably not enough to turn the B's 3D and a 2nd/3rd-line tweener F into cap savings and a whack at an elite prospect.

And even if they did, it wouldn't be a super easy call for Boston as they'd be faced with even more organizational turnover than many expected following a long playoff run.

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not sure how many times it needs to be said but Hemsky is of NO intrest to Boston.
I disagree. I'd think Hemsky would be great in Boston, especially if they can't keep Horton.

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Boston's needs are resigning the guys they have + making room for Hamilton/Bartkowski/Krug and Spooner. Boston is looking for the best futures possible. Probably not interested in a roster player. More of a picks/prospects kind of deal. Don't actually think the Bruins would be looking for the #7 pick. More like Hartikainen, Marincin, #37 pick, #56 pick.

Edit: Didn't realize Hartikainen had gone KHL. Musil in his place would be fine.


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I disagree. I'd think Hemsky would be great in Boston, especially if they can't keep Horton.
The whole point of dealing Boychuk is to safely have the $$$ for Horton.

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The whole point of dealing Boychuk is to safely have the $$$ for Horton.
Even with Horton, the Bruins need another RW.

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If the 2 Boston players did waive, I would think the Oilers would only be interested in Boychuk, because they are coveting Monohan.. this would have to wait until after sunday to see what they ended up with, after that Boycjuk would give a list of 15 teams, am I right?

In a perfect world, I would do both Oilers 2nd rounders this year with Arcobello and one of Fedun/Tuebert/Plante, for Boychuk, and G Prospect Michael Hutchinson.

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who is koko? im not following

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