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Ducks Requesting Coburn And Flyers 1st For Bobby Ryan

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06-27-2013, 08:13 PM
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Much like Couturier, the 11th pick isn't available without a defenseman coming back.

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06-27-2013, 08:13 PM
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Ryan is overrated, as streaky as they come

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06-27-2013, 08:14 PM
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Bonino proved himself as a 2C (not high end, but solid) last year and has the chance to improve due to his age. In addition they have about 4 Centers as prospects that potentially could replace Bonino in a year or two if they continue their growth. If not, they could always look at the trade deadline.

The Ducks have a few players that could replace Ryan (and are cheaper) and he never really found his spot in the Ducks line up.

They have a bigger problem on D with no top end shutdown player. He would be a perfect fit with Fowler on the top line.
Bonino did not prove himself. Not even close. There are 30 2Cs in the nhL, bonino is not a top-60 center, not eve close

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06-27-2013, 08:15 PM
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So you think if the Sharks offered Sena Acolatse (has never stepped on NHL ice) and a 7th for Ryan Murray, the Blue Jackets would accept, since neither player has stepped on NHL ice, so they are even in value, and the 7th pushes it over the top for the blue jackets?

Silly logic. Most scouts consider it a very deep draft, just as they did exactly 10 years ago. Look how that draft turned out.
Clearly that is not what they meant. More often than not SOMEONE is always saying this is "the deepest draft ever" and comparing it to 2003.

For example..

2010:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...g-in-some-time

2011:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=566324

Those were from a 30 second google search. I'm sure you can find many more examples with a little effort but you get the idea

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06-27-2013, 08:16 PM
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If the Ducks do this trade, I wonder if they'd then try to use the 11th + the 26th + a prospect or two to try to move into the top 5 of the draft and take Elias Lindholm.

Pretty interesting.

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Isn't Garrioch really unreliable?
On the reliability meter, he's at the bottom with Eklund and another rumor monger, Larry Brooks. Garrioch has crafted an ability to wordsmith his own theories into ones that sound like they came from sources.

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06-27-2013, 08:17 PM
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Bonino did not prove himself. Not even close. There are 30 2Cs in the nhL, bonino is not a top-60 center, not eve close
Well, he was on a .5 ppg pace...

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06-27-2013, 08:17 PM
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Ryan is overrated, as streaky as they come
Hasn't he been bounced around the lineup between the 1st and 2nd line as well as left and right wing? Correct me if I am wrong. But if that is true that could be the reason he is so streaky

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06-27-2013, 08:18 PM
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Re-signed to a decent contract Ryan would be worth this package. Otherwise Philly needs to stay clear......which means they'll probably announce this right before the draft.

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06-27-2013, 08:20 PM
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Re-signed to a decent contract Ryan would be worth this package. Otherwise Philly needs to stay clear......which means they'll probably announce this right before the draft.
He has two years left at 5.1 million a year. There isn't a single thing wrong with his contract.

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Coburn + Read + 11th

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Ryan and Sbisa

I think the Flyers would have to do. Maybe even throw in another pick.

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On the reliability meter, he's at the bottom with Eklund and another rumor monger, Larry Brooks. Garrioch has crafted an ability to wordsmith his own theories into ones that sound like they came from sources.
I'm telling you right now that the past 2 or 3 articles I've seen in Ottawa we've talked about on the sens board days before they came out.

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It's a fair ask, I just don't see how the Flyers can give up Coburn and the other chip to getting a young Dman. Have to flip a forward for D somehow if it's me.

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Ryan is overrated, as streaky as they come
and Coburn has the hockey IQ of a doorknob


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06-27-2013, 08:21 PM
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I'd do it if I were Philly.
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It would be an excellent trade forPhilly if that's what it takes to pry away Ryan.

Even though, Ryan is pretty inconsistent many times like most goalscorers are, you can't deny his goal-scoring touch, proven 30 goal production multiple times, and he can play with an edge when he is on his game.

Giroux and Ryan would be dynamite and Flyers could be looking at 40 goalscorer since Carter.
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Philly should be all over that.
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Even if thats their 2013 1st, Philly should take that easily.
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I'd do it.
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Fair value for both teams.
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Flyers do it in a heartbeat
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This. Without hesitation.
What they said.

That's pretty value good for both. Bobby would do really good in Philly with Giroux.

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06-27-2013, 08:25 PM
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What they said.

That's pretty value good for both. Bobby would do really good in Philly with Giroux.
Interestingly, I don't think any of them were Flyers fans...

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So how would everyone feel about Ryan and Sbisa for Coburn, Read, 2014 1st?

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06-27-2013, 08:27 PM
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He has two years left at 5.1 million a year. There isn't a single thing wrong with his contract.
i don't think he meant the value was bad just not a great fit financially for the flyers with resigning G and finding a goalie but who knows where the cap is heading so 5.1 isn't terrible since coburn is 4.5

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06-27-2013, 08:28 PM
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and Coburn has the hockey IQ of a doorkbob.
Don't underestimate the hockey intelligence of a doorkbob.

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06-27-2013, 08:29 PM
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He has two years left at 5.1 million a year. There isn't a single thing wrong with his contract.


He's well worth 5 mill over the next 2. It's trying to extend him after 2 seasons being Giroux's wingman. I didn't say there was anything wrong with the contract in itself. Flyers need the first and Coburn worse than they need Ryan.

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06-27-2013, 08:29 PM
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i don't think he meant the value was bad just not a great fit financially for the flyers with resigning G and finding a goalie but who knows where the cap is heading so 5.1 isn't terrible since coburn is 4.5
By the time Ryan's extension would kick in the cap would be going up, so it shouldn't be an issue.

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06-27-2013, 08:29 PM
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Why wouldn't the Flyers do that? That's an excellent deal.

Ducks should maybe be looking to grab Read out of the deal.
Ryan + 45th
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11th + Coburn + Read

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06-27-2013, 08:31 PM
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Why wouldn't the Flyers do that? That's an excellent deal.

Ducks should maybe be looking to grab Read out of the deal.
Ryan + 45th
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11th + Coburn + Read
I doubt that we can afford to keep Read, so I fail to see how that helps us.

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06-27-2013, 08:41 PM
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I doubt that we can afford to keep Read, so I fail to see how that helps us.
I keep reading how much Read next contract will cost. Lets say he keeps doing his job on the 3rd line. He wont break the bank.

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06-27-2013, 08:46 PM
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Coburn, Laughton and 2013 2nd for Ryan

Really like to see 2013 1st used on a defender
this would probably give Philly the motive to trade down because they feel the 11th is too much to use....but if they droped it down to 15-22 then its a better trade value.

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