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06-27-2013, 08:33 PM
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Any interest in Antoine Vermette + ?
That's a name that hasn't been discussed as much, but I could see the Blues being interested in him. Not sure at the cost of Perron though.

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06-27-2013, 08:34 PM
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Eh, we need centers. It'd be Pavelski or we add more for Thornton.
How does Perron, Rattie, 2nd rounder 2014 for Thornton and a 7th in 2014 sound or is there ways this can improve?


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06-27-2013, 08:36 PM
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That's a name that hasn't been discussed as much, but I could see the Blues being interested in him. Not sure at the cost of Perron though.
Doesn't come up much because Phoenix is desperate for a center and it doesn't make much sense trading Vermette. Of course if we can get an actual offensive talent (something we are almost completely and entirely without) than it could make some sense to ship out Vermette and go back to the drawing board on the center issue.

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06-27-2013, 08:42 PM
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If the Blues are interested in Vermette, I'd consider Vermette for Perron. But I think we need to address our holes at center first.

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06-27-2013, 08:43 PM
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Perron for a bag of nickels
i have a bag of nickels....

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06-27-2013, 09:03 PM
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If the Blues are interested in Vermette, I'd consider Vermette for Perron. But I think we need to address our holes at center first.
Phoenix would have to add a decent amount in order to swap Perron for Vermette.

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06-27-2013, 09:05 PM
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How does Perron, Rattie, 2nd rounder 2014 for Thornton and a 7th in 2014 sound or is there ways this can improve?
No thanks. Don't want to include Rattie in a deal for Thornton, who has 1 year left and isn't getting any younger.

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06-27-2013, 09:08 PM
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What sort of centers would a team be interested in trading for Perron +? Other parts that I could see being added would be Cole, Rattie, and picks.

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06-27-2013, 09:20 PM
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No thanks. Don't want to include Rattie in a deal for Thornton, who has 1 year left and isn't getting any younger.
instead of rattie how does jaskin or schwartz sound ?

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06-27-2013, 09:22 PM
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instead of rattie how does jaskin or schwartz sound ?
I don't consider either to be off limits but it obviously depends on what center is being offered.

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Sharks lose that deal big time, Pavelski is way more valuable than Perron.
I want Oshie if Pavs is going the other way.

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06-27-2013, 09:26 PM
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instead of rattie how does jaskin or schwartz sound ?
Schwartz won't be incuded. Jaskin, maybe...But still not too thrilled with the idea.

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06-27-2013, 09:30 PM
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I want Oshie if Pavs is going the other way.
In a vacuum, sure. But the organization has an extremely high premium on him due to him fitting the system and town so well.

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Just so we're clear, I am not on board with Pavelski for Perron and a 2nd. I would only want Perron for Pavs if they added Rattie, Jaskin, or Schwartz.

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Just so we're clear, I am not on board with Pavelski for Perron and a 2nd. I would only want Perron for Pavs if they added Rattie, Jaskin, or Schwartz.
If Schwartz is involved with perron than San Jose would have to add. Jaskin is the most likely of the three.

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Just so we're clear, I am not on board with Pavelski for Perron and a 2nd. I would only want Perron for Pavs if they added Rattie, Jaskin, or Schwartz.
Those are significant add-ons. There would have to be significant balance coming back.

Schwartz in particular is close to being untouchable for us. I understand the piece you'd be giving up is big, but that's a large difference in package, nonetheless.

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I could see Sobotka being an add in possibly on top of Perron + 2nd/3rd.

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Those are significant add-ons. There would have to be significant balance coming back.

Schwartz in particular is close to being untouchable for us. I understand the piece you'd be giving up is big, but that's a large difference in package, nonetheless.
What more would you be looking for if it was Perron + Rattie?

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06-27-2013, 09:43 PM
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I could see Sobotka being an add in possibly on top of Perron + 2nd/3rd.
Hitchcock loves Sobotka there is no chance he would be added....

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I hope this is true. Perron is a good player but he doesn't fit in Hitchcock's system. Many nights he's on a completely different page than the rest of the team. He has a lot of passion and skill, but tries to do it all himself by stick-handling too long instead of using his teammates or actually shooting the puck. Also not very good defensively. He thinks he's a hotshot. He's constantly going offside or making his teammates go offside by dancing around the blueline instead of just carrying the puck in.

I think it'd definitely be in our best interest to swap him for a center of similar age and production (Pavelski and Plekanec for example are names we've discussed in the past). We'd want a deal around Kesler from Vancouver (realize we'd have to add but that's really all that interests me).

I personally think Perron belongs in the East, that'd suit his style more. No interest in Desharnais though so don't even bother with him.
We have no interest in an undersized winger with a concussion history so thank you but we will keep Pleks. He's a legitimate first line center and is criminally underrated on these boards.

Even if you refuse to believe all of the above he has a no trade clause and I highly highly doubt he would waive to go to St.Louis. In fact I doubt he would ever waive and I sincerely hope he never will. This team would go down in flames without him.

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What more would you be looking for if it was Perron + Rattie?
we could add one of our 2nd rounders this year?

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06-27-2013, 09:46 PM
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I could see Sobotka being an add in possibly on top of Perron + 2nd/3rd.
I couldn't. I don't see the blues trading Sobotka. He plays his role very well and can slide up and fill in on a scoring line if need be. I would say the blues are satisfied at this point with he and Jaden Scwartz to the point where it wouldn't make sense to move either.

I do believe the pieces are there to complete a deal though. Pavelski would be an ideal fit on the Blues and Perron has somewhat underwhelmed recently. I do believe Perron could become a very good player in the league, but he really needs to work on his skating and simplifying his game in order to do so. He seems to be more of an east - west player whereas the blues are a more north - south team.

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06-27-2013, 09:51 PM
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we could add one of our 2nd rounders this year?
That seems about right to me. Though, if Armstrong has something else planned, I could see them electing to swap our A/B level prospect with one of your B/Cs.

Schwartz just has significantly more value than the other two at this point (NHL ready, Parise-light style). Toss-up between Rattie and Jaskin as far as value goes. The prospect we would assuredly be willing to throw-in is our offensive D prospect Schmaltz...not sure he would alter the original deal (from our end), at all.

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Just so we're clear, I am not on board with Pavelski for Perron and a 2nd. I would only want Perron for Pavs if they added Rattie, Jaskin, or Schwartz.
For 1 year of Pavelski? No thanks.

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I could see Sobotka being an add in possibly on top of Perron + 2nd/3rd.
You clearly don't know how much value Sobotka has to the Blues.

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