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10-19-2006, 04:06 PM
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I'm sure this looks VERY familiar to some of you

Hey guys,

here's a link to an article Mr. Gaston Thérien wrote for rds.ca.


http://rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/215344.html

This guy MUST'VE posted on these boards!

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10-19-2006, 04:11 PM
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It's not very hard to come up with those lines...It's not like we have a ton of possibilities. It's either Bonk goes up to the 2nd or Perez replaces Sammy, and since we've seen that Pleks and Sammy both haven't been effective, either solution could be tried.

Edit: Actually I just noticed what he did with the 3rd and 4th line, which I don't really like.

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Sammy on the 4th line is just an awful idea.

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Grabovsky is healthy now, isn't he?
Why not try him when we have a callup to do anyways?

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I could live with Sammy on the 4th with some PP time.

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I could live with Sammy on the 4th with some PP time.
He's worthless on the PP imo. We have a guy who does the same thing he does but with a better shot, Kovalev. I don't know why they haven't tried Bonk on the PP (they have just not on the 2nd wave)...He's a big body in front of the net and he's smarter and more experienced than Latendresse. It's what he did in Ottawa, and I think it'd be worth a try here.

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Well, that would be my nice way of dealing with not really wanting him on the team.
He seems kind of worthless in general....it is early though.

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10-19-2006, 05:15 PM
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Hey guys,

here's a link to an article Mr. Gaston Thérien wrote for rds.ca.


http://rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/215344.html

This guy MUST'VE posted on these boards!
Gaston, if you actually read these boards...

Why stop at that. Clearly Lats should be moved to the 1st line. Sammy should be in the press box and lets get Grabovsky in the line up.

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10-19-2006, 05:18 PM
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the guy should stop writing about hockey, he doesn't know anything.

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Sammy on the 4th line is just an awful idea.
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That 4th line would suck ***... I wonder why UFAs never wanna come to Montreal

It took 6 games for Samsonov to go from:

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He's worthless on the PP imo. We have a guy who does the same thing he does but with a better shot, Kovalev. I don't know why they haven't tried Bonk on the PP (they have just not on the 2nd wave)...He's a big body in front of the net and he's smarter and more experienced than Latendresse. It's what he did in Ottawa, and I think it'd be worth a try here.

Bonk have played PP time in 3 games.... Like yestarday or against Calgary !

Imo the lines are fine like that... The first line = very good, the 3th is very good 2-way and the 4th is fine... So why break-up three line when the second is soso...

Wake up guys, its only 6 games, its not like if Samsonov and Kovalev havent get point, Sammy got 1-1-2 in 6 games, we need to be more patient, this is only the 6 real NHL game Kovalev and Samsonov on the same team and with Plekanec, its the same thing... Higgins-Koivu-Ryder have played together a lot of time last year, Perezhogin-Bonk was also matched up sometimes and Johnson, he's the type of players who can adapt to the situation in every team, every position.

Kovy: 2-2-4
Sammy: 1-1-2
Plekanec: 0-2-2

3 goals 7 assits, these points are not only each toghether but the total. Its not fantastic 3 goals 7 assists in 6 games, but If they're in their slump right now at that period of the young young young season (yes 6 games is nothing) its better then in the last few games.

And BTW, Samsonov is not horrible, its the line who's not been so great but his goal was amaizing, he's a speedster, he controlled the puck very very well, he hit one post and he was unlucky on the scoring chances that could turn into a goal... Look Havlat is amazing but Aebischer was weak on the goal, and some of goal he scored this years the goalers was weak on... Sh|t happens, we gonna have some chance soon. We just need to increase a decent plan match for those 3. Guy would work on, Bonk is good this year, yes, but guys don't forget, 3 weeks ago, everybody want him out of the club, Bonk is currently like Havlat are, in a ****ing hot streak.

Things will balance soon.. if we change line, the only way I found it decent its...

Samsonov-Koivu-Ryder
Perezhogin-Higgins-Kovalev
Latendresse-Plekanec-Johnson
Begin-Bonk-Murray

You can switch Begin and Latendresse, doesnt matter. I think that Koivu first quality his he can play well with every players and Ryder is a true finisher and this year, pretty fast, throw his body on the board, got better stickhandling, so Samsonov would be a nice fit.

Higgins can play center, I don't think it will affect his play, anyway he's so damn good and will put great number this year, with a puck controller and nicer shooter like Kovalev that would be dangerous. And then, Perezhogin plays wery well, we need him top-2 line, he's more talented in offense then Plekanec is (its not a knock on him though) but its true. He had 2 posts so far and he can score goal.

The third line would be OKAY, because Plekanec is better then Bonk, both are good on there own zone, Johnson is amazing this year and that would help Latendresse to plays and learn with to great players like that.

The fourth line still on focus for the intensity, Begin is one of the best 4th liners of the league, with Bonk and Murray its a nice fit.


Notice that, I didn't check the spelling errors and I have made a lot of mistakes, but sh|t happens when you've never learned english.

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10-19-2006, 05:45 PM
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Grabovsky is healthy now, isn't he?
Why not try him when we have a callup to do anyways?
wicked avator .. u should make a bunch more !! haha i want higins

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Samsonov-Koivu-Ryder
Perezhogin-Higgins-Kovalev
Latendresse-Plekanec-Johnson
Begin-Bonk-Murray
I like these lines to be honest, but I've found our third line to be one of the best in this early season. Please don't kill me for saying this, but Bonk and Johnson have had chemistry. So if the 3rd line didnt work out, then Bonk and Pleks would be switched, and we'd have people complaining about that too, cause as habs fans, we don't want to see a young gun like Plekanec on the fourth line compared to a big slow guy like Bonk on the third.

I like those lines but it's early in the season. We're winning guys. I know the second line hasn't been clicking well, but we've seen great things from the bottom two lines, and amazing things from the top lines. As long as it doesn't become our albatross, I think the second line should remain intact or we switch Perez and Sammy as Samsonov is the problem and the chemistry has been mostly, in my opinion, between Bonk and Johnson.

By far, I am not a Bonk fanboy, if there are those, or a Plekanec fanboy. I think everything will fall together smoothly soon. We have the versatility with our lines that we can ice a competitive team every night.

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Sammy on the 4th line is just an awful idea.
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I could live with Sammy on the 4th with some PP time.
I could live with Latendresse on the 4th with some pp time...

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I could live with Latendresse on the 4th with some pp time...
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Sammy won't play on the 4th line. Why? Because 3,5? million doesn't play on the fourth line. It makes the organization look bad and as if they made a mistake in signing him, something they'll never admit to if true.

It's the same reason $5 million Theodore kept getting chance after to chance to prove himself during his skid.

Money doesn't sit on the bench or play backup to anyone else, especially on the fourth line

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You don't need to change all the lines because one isn't working .You just try with a different player to see what happens .

Who of the 3 players could fit well on another line ?

You have Samsonov , who is an offensive player , that could be switch on the first line . But that line is great by now . The game of Samsonov isn't suited for the 3-4 th line , so it wouln't help the team .

Kovalev ; see above . Same as Samsonov

Plekanec ; could be switch to the third line , where he was before the trade of Ribeiro ; he was very good there , so he would help the team playing there .

You move him to the third , so you try Bonk to the 2 nd . Than if it doesn't work , than you make major move .

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the guy should stop writing about hockey, he doesn't know anything.
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10-20-2006, 11:26 AM
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Worst lines ever.

I'm tryna think up worse lines then that, here goes:
LW C RW
Line 1: Perezhogin-Downey-Begin <--- Downey as our 1st C? HAH
Line 2: Kovalev-Latandresse-Murray <---- Too much ice time
Line 3: Dandenault(lol)-Ryder(lol)-Higgins <--- Dandenault forward, Ryder Center.
Line 4: Plekanec-Johnson-Koivu(LOL) <---- No ice time

That wud be less **** then what he said and it doesn't even have good centers

Line 3 wud be PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMP lol

I think i shud have just made all the C's on 1 line, ALL the LW on another etc, but make all the C's the 4th line and never give them ice time.

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since it line we are discussing would you try to swap Ryder and Samsonov for one game, Koivu's got more talent to find a guy on the ice than Plekanec?

it would give:
Sammy-Koivu-Higgins
Ryder-Plek-Kovalev
Perez-Bonk-johnson
Lat-Begin-Murray

It keeps: Koivu-Higgins together and the 3rd line remain unchange

or we could change the center on both first line
Sammy-Koivu-Kovalev (vet line) (chemistry would be altered)
Ryder-Plek-Higgins (kid line) (all those kid works hard, I would guess they would develop chemistry fast)
Perez-Bonk-Johnson (unchanged)
Lat-Begin-Murray (unchanged)

I know that Carbo has the last word on the team's line
I doubt that Sammy would fit great on the 3rd with Bonk & Johnson (but I'm open to try it!)

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