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06-28-2013, 07:06 PM
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The Habs aren't a "win now" team, they're a couple years away yet. If they could package Plekanec to move up in the draft significantly, I wouldn't be upset at all... Sign Clowe and Lecavalier and let Markov, Gionta, Boullion walk after the season. Lots of cash to pay for Subban's big money day.

Pacioretty - Lecavalier - Gallagher
Bourque - Desharnais - Gionta
Galchenyuk - Eller - Clowe
Prust - White - Moen

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06-28-2013, 07:08 PM
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as mentioned some people are clued out if they think Vinny replaces plekanecs. COMPLETELY different centers - and Pleks plays a stronger two way game and is 3 years younger. the guy to go is Desharnais. you're delusional if you think Eller is ready to replace plekanecs shutdown minutes vs top line centers. delusional.

if bergevin decides to make the dumb move and replace plekanecs while keeping the dwarf / offensive zone specialist, he better find a really good shut down elite, 4th line center - because it isn't DD, vinny, eller (yet), dumont or ryan white

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06-28-2013, 07:08 PM
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So you're telling me we've been missing a big since Pierre Turgeon left this city and when we finally get one with Lecavalier, we'd be stupid enough to play him on wing?!? You guys just want to do moves for the sake of making moves, none of this makes our team better today or long term.
You're right we've been waiting for years for big talented center and we drafted him 3rd overall in 2012 you might of heard of him.

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06-28-2013, 07:09 PM
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as mentioned some people are clued out if they think Vinny replaces plekanecs. COMPLETELY different centers - and Pleks plays a stronger two way game and is 3 years younger. the guy to go is Desharnais. you're delusional if you think Eller is ready to replace plekanecs shutdown minutes vs top line centers. delusional.

if bergevin decides to make the dumb move and replace plekanecs while keeping the dwarf / offensive zone specialist, he better find a really good shut down elite, 4th line center - because it isn't DD, vinny, eller (yet), dumont or ryan white
Vinny doesn't replace Pleks, Eller does at least eventually.

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06-28-2013, 07:11 PM
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Unless the return is mind boggling, moving Plekanec would most certainly hurt the team short term.

However i also believe there might be a few options to replaced him right now and a good return of a Young winger or defenseman would also help the habs mid-term imo (and i'm talking 2-3 years, not more).
So yes, it's appropriate to listen to see what could be had for Plekanec right now. It might very well not be much this summer because of the cap drop.

If i can add a Ryan or a Bogosian for Plekanec AND think i have a legitimate chance at Lecavalier or another option. Than i'd make the move and give Eller the chance to take the matchups versus top line. With the appropriate wingers, it's the time to put him into this spot. Can only help us within 2 years also.

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06-28-2013, 07:12 PM
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You're right we've been waiting for years for big talented center and we drafted him 3rd overall in 2012 you might of heard of him.
Galchenyuk is 6'1, talented hell yeah but I wouldn't consider him big plus he'll never be physical, simply not part of his game. Anyway let's stop derailing this thread, Plekanec is just as good as Stastny so how is this gonna make our team better?

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06-28-2013, 07:14 PM
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Galchenyuk is 6'1, talented hell yeah but I wouldn't consider him big plus he'll never be physical, simply not part of his game. Anyway let's stop derailing this thread, Plekanec is just as good as Stastny so how is this gonna make our team better?
Plekanec hasn't had a ppg season and isn't 27.

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06-28-2013, 07:19 PM
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Plekanec hasn't had a ppg season and isn't 27.
That was 3 years ago when Gomez was still a 60 point scorer and players like Roy, Boyes and Wolski were considered 1st liners. He's not a PPG player and is a UFA at the end of the year, again lateral and useless move.

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06-28-2013, 07:21 PM
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Wouldn't it be better to get Vinny AND keep Pleks in this scenario?

I don't understand why anyone would want to trade this guy.
Exactly. Makes sense to me.

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06-28-2013, 07:25 PM
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Wow, haven't checked the board since this morning and then this thread pops up and is immediately on page 11. Love the activity on this Montreal board

That said, Plekanec is obviously a horse for us up front and we can't trade him without taking a step back. That said, does keeping Plekanec make us a contender? If Bergevin wants to improve the team long term, Plekanec could be the guy to trade. He has never been great in the playoffs and with him and Desharnais we'll always be small up the middle. I prefer him to DD, but Pleks has much more trade value.

I could see a scenario where Bergevin looks to trade Pleks for a pick in the 10-12 range to pick Horvat or Domi. This would force our remaining players to step up their game next year with a high-profile prospect expected to make the club in the 2014-15 season. It might be more of a long term approach than some would like at this point given our place in the standings this year, but it might not be the wrong approach.

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06-28-2013, 07:29 PM
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You talk like Lecavalier is a slam dunk and i won't disagree with you. I'll go along with you.

So i ask what is a better formation:

Pleks Lecav & Eller

or

Lecav, Eller & DD with a top 6 winger or top 4 dman.

I'm sorry to say because I love the kid but from the putrid performance DD put on these playoffs, I go with the first formation.
Eller deserves to get 2nd center minutes. Enough with playing him behind DD and or Pleks.

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06-28-2013, 07:33 PM
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Maybe Plekanec asked for a trade.

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06-28-2013, 07:35 PM
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you're OK with trading Plekanec for a guy we'll lose in two years (UFA) ?
Plek is UFA in three years, Ryan is a better player, not by much. and five years younger. It's a no brainer.

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06-28-2013, 07:36 PM
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Plek is UFA in three years, Ryan is a better player, not by much. and five years younger. It's a no brainer.
Absolute no brainer, as long as you have VL at center to replace him.

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06-28-2013, 07:44 PM
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Maybe Plekanec asked for a trade.
All he would have to do is read this forum.

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06-28-2013, 07:45 PM
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I always pictured Garrioch eating the white paste (glue).

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I always pictured Garrioch eating the white paste (glue).
and red crayons.

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as mentioned some people are clued out if they think Vinny replaces plekanecs. COMPLETELY different centers - and Pleks plays a stronger two way game and is 3 years younger. the guy to go is Desharnais. you're delusional if you think Eller is ready to replace plekanecs shutdown minutes vs top line centers. delusional.

if bergevin decides to make the dumb move and replace plekanecs while keeping the dwarf / offensive zone specialist, he better find a really good shut down elite, 4th line center - because it isn't DD, vinny, eller (yet), dumont or ryan white
I agree with this post.

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Sign Vinny, trade Plek + for Bobby Ryan. BOOM

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Sign Vinny, trade Plek + for Bobby Ryan. BOOM
Yes. It's that easy.

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Exactly, some people don't understand how important Plek is to this team, he's underappreciated the same way our former captain was during his time here. Some people can't get over their size obsession.
Unless it's for Desharnais...there is always room for Desharnais

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plec's will be a hab, his contract is not hurting the habs at all


now DD , well you know

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So you're telling me we've been missing a big talented center ever since Pierre Turgeon left this city and when we finally get one with Lecavalier, we'd be stupid enough to play him on wing?!? You guys just want to do moves for the sake of making moves, none of this makes our team better today or long term.
you're talking like we had so many big talented wingers over the last few years...

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