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06-28-2013, 09:49 PM
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If Luongo is bought out Gillis should be fired. Dead serious.

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He can. All it takes is one GM to be desperate or Gillis to be desperate (1 for 1 for DP)
Desperate for what? Is Luongo the last goalie on the planet?

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I makes no sense whatsoever to buy the guy out if you can trade him for anything whatsoever. I mean...trade Luongo for a 5th. Who cares. Get SOMETHING for him..and refrain from paying the dude for like...31 years. My god are these people ******* stupid.
Luongo has negative trade value. They'd have to trade him plus assets or eat a large chunk of his contract to move him.

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06-28-2013, 09:51 PM
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If Luongo is bought out Gillis should be fired. Dead serious.
Ya, I don't see the point of keeping any of his money on the books. I think Gillis may still be being too rigid in his demands back for Luongo. From a neutral perspective it would make far more sense to just give in and take something like a 4th round pick or higher and trade him than buying him out and having to pay him that money.

It would be stupid.

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06-28-2013, 09:52 PM
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He'd still have to clear waivers and I don't see that happening.

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Ya, I don't see the point of keeping any of his money on the books. I think Gillis may still be being too rigid in his demands back for Luongo. From a neutral perspective it would make far more sense to just give in and take something like a 4th round pick or higher and trade him than buying him out and having to pay him that money.

It would be stupid.
Agreed, but what if they are literally getting ZERO trade offers for him?

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06-28-2013, 09:56 PM
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Agreed. I think the best option for Vancouver now is just put him on waivers, he likely gets claimed and we can start zeroing in on actual assets which help us.
Luongo would not get taken on waivers in any way, shape, or form. If he'd get claimed, he'd be on waivers already.

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06-28-2013, 09:57 PM
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right on the spot

Obviously they discussed about buying him out. Whether it became a serious consideration is still to be seen
I liked it a whole lot better when these guys had to pass their stuff through the papers editor before it was published.

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Why would anybody take on that contract with all the risks that are involved. Every team in the league can basically force the Canucks to buy him out or suffer the consequences. The cap recapturing penalties and just the overall amount of money left on that contract is ridiculous...

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I have a crazy thought for some of you. What if Lou's contract is so onerous that no one would take him for free? Do not confuse this with criticizing his ability. It is strictly mathematics involving his eventual fade in skills due to age, his current age, and how much the parent club would still get stuck paying. If Vancouver eats the max amount they can take back, maybe then you can see some action.

Of course there is always Philly, run by this decades' version of Mike Milbury. So I guess there is still hope.

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No one is going to take Luongo with his current contract

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Why would anybody take on that contract with all the risks that are involved. Every team in the league can basically force the Canucks to buy him out or suffer the consequences. The cap recapturing penalties and just the overall amount of money left on that contract is ridiculous...
Plus how many contending team, or at least teams close to it are in need of a goalie? There's only like 2 teams who would even be interested in him to begin with.

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I have a crazy thought for some of you. What if Lou's contract is so onerous that no one would take him for free? Do not confuse this with criticizing his ability. It is strictly mathematics involving his eventual fade in skills due to age, his current age, and how much the parent club would still get stuck paying. If Vancouver eats the max amount they can take back, maybe then you can see some action.

Of course there is always Philly, run by this decades' version of Mike Milbury. So I guess there is still hope.
really? How many deep playoffs runs did Milburry's team go on?

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Luongo would not get taken on waivers in any way, shape, or form. If he'd get claimed, he'd be on waivers already.
Luongo doesn't need to be waived until July 3rd. He's still a valuable asset until then.

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06-28-2013, 10:01 PM
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He'd still have to clear waivers and I don't see that happening.
On an amnesty buyout? No he doesn't. He has a full NTC and if he's bought out he cannot be put on waivers without his consent.

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This is news?

More like a Friday night zZzZz.

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06-28-2013, 10:02 PM
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On an amnesty buyout? No he doesn't. He has a full NTC and if he's bought out he cannot be put on waivers without his consent.
that's not true

NTC just deals with trades. NMC cover waivers

Lu will need to be placed on waivers beforehand

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Luongo doesn't need to be waived until July 3rd. He's still a valuable asset until then.
I think auto correct messed up your last sentence. What did you really mean to say?

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06-28-2013, 10:09 PM
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He'd still have to clear waivers and I don't see that happening.
I think that if Vancouver is considering a buyout that means the Canucks are only being offered trade scenarios for Luongo that involve salary coming back to the Canucks.

Now, if that is the case, that would mean that the Canucks are not being offered:

- trades that involve no salary coming back (i.e., picks only); or
- trades that involve any player currently under contract that is not a buyout candidate.

Because at this point, I feel that the Canucks would complete any deal that meets either of those two options.

If the Canucks are only being offered deals that involve $ heading back
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No team is currently willing to take Luongo on without sending salary back
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I don't think its out of the realm of possibility that Luongo could clear waivers.

For all intents and purposes, trading a 6th or 7th round pick for Luongo is the same as picking him off waivers. Any team considering taking him on waivers, other than possibly Florida (due to them basically having first crack at Luongo) would offer up the basically worthless pick to ensure that they get Luongo.

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a third option is the Canucks are being offered deals that involve salary retention by the Canucks


Last edited by tempest2i: 06-28-2013 at 10:15 PM. Reason: obvious scenario I missed
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Agreed, but what if they are literally getting ZERO trade offers for him?
I think what is happening is teams are stating that the Nucks keep a portion of Luongo' contract but Gillis doesn't want to do that.

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06-28-2013, 10:12 PM
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I think what is happening is teams are staing that the Nucks keep a portion of Luongo' contract but Gillis doesn't want to do that.
which is why Luongo will have to be bought out if they want to get rid of him

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which is why Luongo will have to be bought out if they want to get rid of him
Waivers are another option

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Shouldve taken Komisarek straight up when you had the chance...

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Luongo doesn't need to be waived until July 3rd. He's still a valuable asset until then.
If he was a valuable asset he wouldn't be on the team. He's a cinder block chained to the team as they try and avoiding drowning in the salary cap.

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Shouldve taken Komisarek straight up when you had the chance...
That would be even worse than buying him out.

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