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06-28-2013, 09:56 PM
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This should be the most boring off season in the last 20 years of this team's history. No buyouts, no draft picks intrigue, no free agency, no nothing.

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06-28-2013, 10:15 PM
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They can go over the cap for a while. Just need to be under closer to when the yr starts, I honestly could see them dealing staal and the 4 mil cap hit for Faulk who's a million plus picks prospect. Still leaves mc d, dz, Moore on ld and girardi, Faulk, stralman rd. Dave's 3 million for ufas
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Staal+Pyatt for Faulk+Murphy or Faulk+35overall

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06-28-2013, 10:21 PM
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i can see Sather do nothing... Powe is overpaid. he is not useful... looks like Rico Fata out their
Hes nothing like Rico Fata, but okay.

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06-28-2013, 10:22 PM
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Well this is just flat out ignorant. Typical though from you.

Powe is a 4th line player. He is quicker than Rupp by a long stretch. He gave us good minutes on the PK this past season when we lost the likes of fedotenko, prust, anisimov, and dubinsky.

A 4th liner making $1 million dollars and people are *****ing? Sounds like that ignorant portion of the ranger faithful. I guess a fair dollar amount for Powe would be, what, $750K? $650K? We're seriously griping over a few hundred thousand dollars for a 4th line player? If that's the case then this organization should just pack it in for eternity.
Powe is useless but less useless than Rupp and makes less money so it was a good trade in that sense. But I'd prefer a 7th rounder to Powe such as not to have to pay him.

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06-28-2013, 10:29 PM
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This should be the most boring off season in the last 20 years of this team's history. No buyouts, no draft picks intrigue, no free agency, no nothing.
Could be a good thing.

But changing coaches is not enough. It was a step in the right direction but this roster will not cut it if Richards continues to stink up the ice.

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06-28-2013, 10:44 PM
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This should be the most boring off season in the last 20 years of this team's history. No buyouts, no draft picks intrigue, no free agency, no nothing.
2010 was pretty blah. But at least there was the great McIlrath debate. "Good times", I think.

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06-28-2013, 10:50 PM
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Don't care about. Wish we had more picks, but prefer a "quiet" off season instead of splashes every right and left.

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06-28-2013, 10:58 PM
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"There are more names thrown out that I've seen before, big names, with fewer teams willing to take them" - Dave Nonis

Good thing we moved Gaborik when we did.
This is exactly why they should have bought out Richards. There are players available this off-season who normally aren't available because of the cap coming down. Cap space is a serious weapon this off-season and instead if doing the smart thing and buying out Richards to create an advantage, they did the opposite.....

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06-28-2013, 11:02 PM
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This is exactly why they should have bought out Richards. There are players available this off-season who normally aren't available because of the cap coming down. Cap space is a serious weapon this off-season and instead if doing the smart thing and buying out Richards to create an advantage, they did the opposite.....
I disagree. Well I'm for buying out Richards but this FA class is pretty awful.

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06-28-2013, 11:04 PM
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I disagree. Well I'm for buying out Richards but this FA class is pretty awful.
I meant via trade.

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06-28-2013, 11:04 PM
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Could still acquire players via trade anyway. We'd be sending salary back in almost any deal since it's not like we have picks that we can trade right now anyway.

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06-28-2013, 11:07 PM
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Could still acquire players via trade anyway. We'd be sending salary back in almost any deal since it's not like we have picks that we can trade right now anyway.
What salary?

The reason most of the good players are available right now is because their teams need to unload salary. The Rangers now can't take on any.

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06-28-2013, 11:11 PM
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This is exactly why they should have bought out Richards. There are players available this off-season who normally aren't available because of the cap coming down. Cap space is a serious weapon this off-season and instead if doing the smart thing and buying out Richards to create an advantage, they did the opposite.....
They have been doing the opposite since I don't know how long.

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06-28-2013, 11:12 PM
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2010 was pretty blah. But at least there was the great McIlrath debate. "Good times", I think.
Prospal was one of the bigger moves to come out of that offseason, and that was at some point in August.

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06-28-2013, 11:13 PM
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so the Rangers have about $14,200,000 of cap space to work with since they are trying out Richards for another year.. Hagelin, Stepan and Mcdonagh to resign for sure.. Zucc seems to be a "sure thing" to sign as well.. They could also move some of the bottom 6 guys (lets face it anyone can go pretty much) to create more salary, or Del Zotto.. Heaven forbid a team has to be creative this off season instead of just throw cash around in UFA.

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06-28-2013, 11:14 PM
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What salary?

The reason most of the good players are available right now is because their teams need to unload salary. The Rangers now can't take on any.
we can easily get rid of salary of some of our bottom 6 guys/biron etc..it all depends on what stepan/mcdonagah etc.. sign for and nobody knows that. Additionally if we wanted to trade for a higher salary guy we could also pay slightly extra if needed and get the other team to retain some of the cap hit of the player.

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06-28-2013, 11:17 PM
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What happened to the rumblings about Cammalleri?

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06-28-2013, 11:18 PM
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This is exactly why they should have bought out Richards. There are players available this off-season who normally aren't available because of the cap coming down. Cap space is a serious weapon this off-season and instead if doing the smart thing and buying out Richards to create an advantage, they did the opposite.....
assets, and probably very good ones as well, would have to be going the other way. The Rangers need see as Richards on a 1 year contract which will probably be more valuable than any trade or UFA they could do. I'm not saying its 100% right or it will even work, but I dont really fault that thought process.

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06-28-2013, 11:25 PM
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What happened to the rumblings about Cammalleri?
Calgary balked at Boyle, Powe and a conditional 6th.

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06-28-2013, 11:29 PM
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assets, and probably very good ones as well, would have to be going the other way. The Rangers need see as Richards on a 1 year contract which will probably be more valuable than any trade or UFA they could do. I'm not saying its 100% right or it will even work, but I dont really fault that thought process.
Exactly why I think we should have waited to do anything until the "talk-to-FA period" and see if we could get Ribeiro or Lecavalier or maybe even someone lesser like Weiss or Filppula to agree to a deal and if they did then we could buy out Richards and we would have our replacement. Would have loved to replace Richards with Ribeiro who would have a shorter term contract.

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06-28-2013, 11:53 PM
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Exactly why I think we should have waited to do anything until the "talk-to-FA period" and see if we could get Ribeiro or Lecavalier or maybe even someone lesser like Weiss or Filppula to agree to a deal and if they did then we could buy out Richards and we would have our replacement. Would have loved to replace Richards with Ribeiro who would have a shorter term contract.
You do realize that there is a buy out period as it has ended. This he couldn't do any of those things.

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Exactly why I think we should have waited to do anything until the "talk-to-FA period" and see if we could get Ribeiro or Lecavalier or maybe even someone lesser like Weiss or Filppula to agree to a deal and if they did then we could buy out Richards and we would have our replacement. Would have loved to replace Richards with Ribeiro who would have a shorter term contract.
I could see our RFAs signing for less than people think. Bottom 6 guys can be moved, Del Zotto or Staal for offense, etc.

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06-28-2013, 11:59 PM
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You do realize that there is a buy out period as it has ended. This he couldn't do any of those things.
buy out period ends July 4. We haven't missed it, we've chosen to skip it

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buy out period ends July 4. We haven't missed it, we've chosen to skip it
That is still before the "talk to FA" period isnt it?

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06-29-2013, 12:15 AM
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That is still before the "talk to FA" period isnt it?
No. Can start talking to FA on the 3rd. Buyouts end the 4th. There's a day of overlap.

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