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2013 Offseason Thread Part VI: Vinny Lecavalier chooses Philly (5 years, $4.5M per)

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06-29-2013, 06:29 PM
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False info, Dreger never said Coburn was being moved for 5th or 7th. Guess we can let go of the MDZ for top 5 pick pipe dream for now.

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Hears rumors of Avs trading Johnson and 1st for Hedman and 3rd. God I hope this doesn't happen.

Hedman is so much better than EJ that it doesn't compensate for the difference between MacKinnon and Drouin.
I think it makes some sense. Not that McKinnon wouldn't help Colorado, but with McKinnon replaces Lecav and Colorado get a future absolute top notch D in Hedman and Drouin who many compares with Sakic.

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Maybe Lundqvist can lure Alfie here for $1.5m

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Chatted with Ryane Clowe, UFA July 5. Says he's unsure at this point what's going to happen. Loves New York. Rangers with little cap room...


Old news, haven't seen it posted though. Hopefully he tests FA.

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E. Kane is my ideal addition to this team every off season, don't see it happening but I'd dance a jig.
The opposite for me to be perfectly honest. He skates and shoots well. Besides that, he is pretty darn avg in most areas.

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06-29-2013, 06:35 PM
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False info, Dreger never said Coburn was being moved for 5th or 7th. Guess we can let go of the MDZ for top 5 pick pipe dream for now.
Dreger has been mentioning Edmonton constantly

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Dreger has been mentioning Edmonton constantly
Pinacchio or W/E the Flyers beat reporter tweeted that the 7th isn't involved for Coburn.

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The opposite for me to be perfectly honest. He skates and shoots well. Besides that, he is pretty darn avg in most areas.
He's still pretty raw, Atlanta should have given him an extra year before bring him in. I expect him to round out his game and become a premier forward. Hard to say if it will happen but that's his ceiling IMHO.

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Pinacchio or W/E the Flyers beat reporter tweeted that the 7th isn't involved for Coburn.
Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN 4h
The Coburn trade talk is NOT about getting EDM 1stR pick (7); it's about their 2 second-round picks which would give Flyers 3 in that round

That makes more sense, lol.

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Sell! Sell! Sell!

It's like rumor tweets are dictating the market value on players and picks. Let's just hope something actually happens to accompany all this hype.

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Face it, we're not going to make any big moves tomorrow. Lots of talk, but realistically nothing will happen. And hate to say it, but this team is'nt going to win a Stanley Cup. We need another scorer, and were not gonna get it. If any of you actually think bringing in AV will dramatically change this offense your delusional. It will be the same frustrating team as last year. Trade Kreider while you can, he's not going to pan out
yo bro thanks man. i agree. i mean why even start the season. coaches and strategies don't matter anyway bro...

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Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN 4h
The Coburn trade talk is NOT about getting EDM 1stR pick (7); it's about their 2 second-round picks which would give Flyers 3 in that round

That makes more sense, lol.
Thanks. Still getting used to this mystical iPad technology.

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06-29-2013, 06:43 PM
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‏@tpanotchCSN 2m told the Flyers no longer in the mix for Calgary's No. 6 overall pick. asking price too high


Hmm.. I wonder what it could be.

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06-29-2013, 06:45 PM
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All someone has to do is dangle a little candy and Rangers fans go crazy and are ready to pull the trigger on all sorts of deals. Why would the Broons give up on Seguin? Can anyone tell me that? What are the chances of that happening. And they worked pretty hard to get him, nes pa?
Caphit. He will always cost alot. kind of reminds me of Legwand/Marleau in terms of potential. Could level out as someone who got blazing speed but doesn't quite impact the players around him or his team.

His situation also kind of reminds me of Kovalev in NY just after 94'.

To put it like this, if Boston today traded Seguin to us for Kreider, Moore and say Neives, i just don't think they would regret it. Kreider would bring alot to them at a much lower cap hit for 3-4 years (which they really need) and Moore gives them much needed depth at D.

I am not saying they couldn't get a better deal, but I don't think it would be a horrible decision for them to move Seguin. It's not like when Anaheim bought their own hype of being a N-S team after winning the cup and traded their much underrated 1st line center Andy McDonald (who brought tremendous speed for them and was essential in getting their big wingers up ice) to get room for Bertuzzi...

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Also, gotta love the Vancouver goalie situation. Now thinking about trading Schneider because they can't trade Luongo's contract lol. Hope Torts likes dealing with disgruntled goaltenders.


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06-29-2013, 06:47 PM
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TSN has been saying a 1st and a top prospect for Coburn all day, trying to make things exciting. Regardless Coburn is one of Philly's only good D-men so I hope it's for the two second rounders.
Again if Coburn brings that..

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Why the hell is Philly trading a good defensive dman for draft picks again?? Makes no sense.

Building around Steve Mason. I...don't...get...it...

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He's still pretty raw, Atlanta should have given him an extra year before bring him in. I expect him to round out his game and become a premier forward. Hard to say if it will happen but that's his ceiling IMHO.
Yeah for sure, he is the type who all of a sudden goes Correy Perry/Jarome Iginla on you and just starts scoring in bunches.

But I am always scared of player types like that. I just want playmaking ability or 1 on 1 ability (like Nash/Kovalchuk/Kane) from my top players in an cap environment.

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Again if Coburn brings that..
Never mind I totally made that up. Mixed them up, that's what Van wants for Schneider.

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Seguin for Moore, Miller and a 1rst.
from our standpoint, Staal would be preferable.

This is a good deal for us also; it's pricey, but if Seguin continues to develop, it is worth it.

Would NOT trade Kreider so quickly.


I have been right about certain things, and now that Torts is not a factor, and the powers that be understand how important it is to let this guy get there instead of holding him back, he will blossom.

Watch, barring injury, you'll thank me come end of the year.

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"6:47pm et- Flyers quite keen on Lecavalier. Yet another team. Flyers were among the teams that met with Lecavalier today.- Pierre LeBrun"

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426595

Makes sense Philly. Makes sense.

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Yeah for sure, he is the type who all of a sudden goes Correy Perry/Jarome Iginla on you and just starts scoring in bunches.

But I am always scared of player types like that. I just want playmaking ability or 1 on 1 ability (like Nash/Kovalchuk/Kane) from my top players in an cap environment.
Agree, there is some risk in those types of players. I've always liked him and have been confident he'll break out, I think he's too talented to not take that next step. He wasn't small when he came into the league but I do think he was underdeveloped. Starting to grow into his body a bit. He will always get paid based on his draft position even if he doesn't hit his max potential so I agree you gotta watch out for that.

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Only problem with Segs is he has degenerative hip disorder. Scary.
Whoa!
Did not know that.
Then risky futures/vets we need to move due to cap ok, not our best prospects.

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So Philly knows no words other than offense

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Why the hell is Philly trading a good defensive dman for draft picks again?? Makes no sense.

Building around Steve Mason. I...don't...get...it...
so it not just me who thinks like, hello holmgren what the **** are you doing, your d is already messed up old man.

he gonna do something ballsy these days.

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