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New York Rangers 2013 draft preview


The New York Rangers have been through a lot of changes since the 2012 draft, most notably obtaining elite forward Rick Nash, which cost the team this year's first round selection, and gritty forward Ryan Clowe at the trade deadline, which cost New York's second and third round picks. So, unless there are more trades over the next few days, the Rangers will be very quiet in the early rounds on Sunday. But do not put it past General Manager and President Glen Sather to make some noise, as there are valuable players, including prospects, who can be traded to either move up in the draft or obtain an extra selection.… read more



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The New York Rangers have been through a lot of changes since the 2012 draft, most notably obtaining elite forward Rick Nash, which cost the team this year's first round selection, and gritty forward Ryan Clowe at the trade deadline, which cost New York's second and third round picks. So, unless there are more trades over the next few days, the Rangers will be very quiet in the early rounds on Sunday. But do not put it past General Manager and President Glen Sather to make some noise, as there are valuable players, including prospects, who can be traded to either move up in the draft or obtain an extra selection. read more





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Any idea who the NYR might have their eye on?

Just my opinion but I think we have to draft some good skilled players with size instead of trading for them on the downside of their career (Ryan Clowe).

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Any idea who the NYR might have their eye on?

Just my opinion but I think we have to draft some good skilled players with size instead of trading for them on the downside of their career (Ryan Clowe).
Why do we understand this and not management?

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they did but he didnt pan out. Evgeny Grachev. or were you thinking more of a power forward ?

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they did but he didnt pan out. Evgeny Grachev. or were you thinking more of a power forward ?
Bustchev. LoL I called that one . People loved him he was soft and lazy

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Just my opinion but I think we have to draft some good skilled players with size instead of trading for them on the downside of their career (Ryan Clowe).
This reminds me of a political show where they went to Fordham University to ask students if they think we should continue using oil and gas. Almost all said we shouldn't. When the host asked what energy we should use instead, one said (and the others were similar, though not as explicit, usually just confused):

"If we got energy that didn't harm the environment, was inexpensive and available in unlimited amounts, I would be in favor of that."

How did he come up with that?! Just brilliant! Yes, we should have cheap energy that is unlimited and doesn't harm the environment. Oh wait... that doesn't exist. But he sure put a smart look on his face in saying this!

Same with many fans here. Yes, we should definitely draft a skilled guy who has size with our third round pick. That's just a brilliant idea. Why didn't I think of drafting an Eric Lindros-type in the third round? Oh wait, it's because you can't do that.

The only big guys available in the third round are bums who have no skill and can't skate. Some of them develop later, but for each such player, there are literally dozens who never make the NHL and many who can't even make the AHL.

There's a reason why a guy slips to the third round (or even out of the top-3). It is because he has flaws. You have to pick which flaw you are ok living with, but he will have flaws. If he's big, then he can't skate. If he can skate, then he can't think. If he can think, then he's always injured. But there's always a reason why he slipped to the third round.

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Why do we understand this and not management?
Because you live in a fantasy land and you can just criticize someone else without being the one responsible for the actual decision. Again, to draw a political comparison, everyone wants to increase spending on everything: hospitals, schools, retirement, welfare, etc., and everybody wants to lower taxes, and nobody wants to run the budget into ridiculous debt... except this is impossible. But if you are not the Mayor/Governor/President, you don't have to make this decision, so you just criticize others.

Yes, I know you want a big guy who's skilled in the third round. But no, those guys are rarely available outside of the lottery picks, and when they are, it is usually because they have no hockey sense, can't skate, or are always injured. But as a fan, you don't have to make those decisions. You can just sit here and make ridiculous demands that the team drafts a skilled power forward in the third round.


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Traded away this draft, shouldn't trade to get back into it, imo. Rangers made their bed with the clowe trade.

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It's always fun for fans to talk about trading on draft day, trading to move up, trading picks for stars etc.

When you get pissed about not having the 19th pick, there's a guy named Rick Nash who's in his prime, under contract and is coming off a season in which he was the teams MVP for most of it.

The 2nd and 3rd for Clowe was a good gamble to take. He helped get them into the postseason. You cant predict a freak injury like a concussion. A healthy Clowe and Staal and rangers could have very well gotten to the CF.

The Rangers dont need to rebuild. The 2013 picks will just build depth/add assets to move.

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This reminds me of a political show where they went to Fordham University to ask students if they think we should continue using oil and gas. Almost all said we shouldn't. When the host asked what energy we should use instead, one said (and the others were similar, though not as explicit, usually just confused):

"If we got energy that didn't harm the environment, was inexpensive and available in unlimited amounts, I would be in favor of that."

How did he come up with that?! Just brilliant! Yes, we should have cheap energy that is unlimited and doesn't harm the environment. Oh wait... that doesn't exist. But he sure put a smart look on his face in saying this!

Same with many fans here. Yes, we should definitely draft a skilled guy who has size with our third round pick. That's just a brilliant idea. Why didn't I think of drafting an Eric Lindros-type in the third round? Oh wait, it's because you can't do that.

The only big guys available in the third round are bums who have no skill and can't skate. Some of them develop later, but for each such player, there are literally dozens who never make the NHL and many who can't even make the AHL.

There's a reason why a guy slips to the third round (or even out of the top-3). It is because he has flaws. You have to pick which flaw you are ok living with, but he will have flaws. If he's big, then he can't skate. If he can skate, then he can't think. If he can think, then he's always injured. But there's always a reason why he slipped to the third round.



Because you live in a fantasy land and you can just criticize someone else without being the one responsible for the actual decision. Again, to draw a political comparison, everyone wants to increase spending on everything: hospitals, schools, retirement, welfare, etc., and everybody wants to lower taxes, and nobody wants to run the budget into ridiculous debt... except this is impossible. But if you are not the Mayor/Governor/President, you don't have to make this decision, so you just criticize others.

Yes, I know you want a big guy who's skilled in the third round. But no, those guys are rarely available outside of the lottery picks, and when they are, it is usually because they have no hockey sense, can't skate, or are always injured. But as a fan, you don't have to make those decisions. You can just sit here and make ridiculous demands that the team drafts a skilled power forward in the third round.

Epic post is epic.

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