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06-30-2013, 09:03 AM
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Stasny's been pretty bad the last few years. A 50-55 point player at his salary.

He's not in the long term future of the Avs. They're gonna trade him to a contender at the deadline next year for a modest return or just let him walk (addition by subtraction).

MacKinnon isn't going anywhere.

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06-30-2013, 09:03 AM
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If Sather and his cap crunchers thought the team had cap problems they would have just bought out Richards.

That's a big decision to make. They must have some sort of game plan for the off season.

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06-30-2013, 09:04 AM
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Does Colorado do that deal, though?
No... Staal is not worth the #1 pick in the draft. ask anyone outside this thread and you will be laughed at. Guaranteed.

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06-30-2013, 09:08 AM
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I don't get the whole Staal to Carolina thing. Is there concrete evidence he wants to go to Carolina? He's a grown man and he doesn't need his brothers to hold his hand.

It's the same as when a team trades for a second or third Russian or Czech or Finn and then if you put these players on the same line, national pride enhances their skill.

That being said, if Staal has said something behind the scenes or the Rangers feel he's gone in two years, better to trade him now or at the deadline than lose him for nothing.

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06-30-2013, 09:10 AM
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I don't think that it's purely a cap move. Staal is a fan favorite. There needs to be a justifiable reason to trade him besides (he may or may not bolt to Carolina at season's end). This has been a legitimate possibility since the Cane's traded for Jordan, whether we believed it would happen or not.

My guess is that upon beginning extension talks with Henrik this weekend the Rangers must have tried to reach out to Staal's camp too and were not reassured that he would stay (at the very least). The most justifiable reason they can say to the public is that they need cap room and he's far too expensive to keep with all the RFA's coming up in the next 3 years. Personally, I think the organization loves Marc and would not want to bad mouth him to the media (if his true intentions are to play with his brothers).

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06-30-2013, 09:11 AM
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I don't get the whole Staal to Carolina thing. Is there concrete evidence he wants to go to Carolina? He's a grown man and he doesn't need his brothers to hold his hand.

It's the same as when a team trades for a second or third Russian or Czech or Finn and then if you put these players on the same line, national pride enhances their skill.

That being said, if Staal has said something behind the scenes or the Rangers feel he's gone in two years, better to trade him now or at the deadline than lose him for nothing.
There is no evidence. Doesn't mean it's not possible, but all the talk is pretty much speculation because 1) Carolina is looking for D and 2) How cool would it be to have 4 brothers on the same team!

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06-30-2013, 09:12 AM
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I don't think that it's purely a cap move. Staal is a fan favorite. There needs to be a justifiable reason to trade him besides (he may or may not bolt to Carolina at season's end). This has been a legitimate possibility since the Cane's traded for Jordan, whether we believed it would happen or not.

My guess is that upon beginning extension talks with Henrik this weekend the Rangers must have tried to reach out to Staal's camp too and were not reassured that he would stay (at the very least). The most justifiable reason they can say to the public is that they need cap room and he's far too expensive to keep with all the RFA's coming up in the next 3 years. Personally, I think the organization loves Marc and would not want to bad mouth him to the media (if his true intentions are to play with his brothers).
He can't bolt to Carolina at season's end because he's under contract with NYR for 2 more years. He's also on a sweetheart deal, so any talk of needing to move him for cap purposes are bunk.

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06-30-2013, 09:16 AM
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I like managements' thinking behind trading for Scuderi. Bring in a very reliable, serviceable defenseman; trade a defensive asset, which they have a lot of, for a Top 6 forward. Very WIN NOW, which is exactly what I want to see from the Rangers this offseason.

Keeping Richards is a very WIN NOW move, as well. If (and I understand it's a big "if") Richards can return to form, your center depth is great.

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06-30-2013, 09:17 AM
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Staal for Skinner + Murphy/McBain.
Massive difference in value between McBain and Murphy.

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I don't understand how someone who's been correct on a number of occasions is being questioned. I think Dagoon gets a lot of heat from certain posters here because of some of the things he's said about Lundqvist. Or, because he's an old-schooler who grew up watching a game that's changed dramatically over the years and hates how soft the game has gotten.

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06-30-2013, 09:19 AM
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Dagoon broke the Kovalchuk to NJD signing and the Torts firing. I trust his sources.

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Stop questioning Dagoon's sources. He has legitimate sources. This is to talk about the rumors not the sources. We'll have to start handing out infractions.

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I like managements' thinking behind trading for Scuderi.
Scuderi is UFA. He made 3.4 mil last year. If we are trading Staal and replacing him with Scuderi, where is the cap savings? Scuderi isn't signing for less than 3 mil a year.

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06-30-2013, 09:34 AM
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Kevin Bieksa for Boyle hummm may happen
If this is true, who else do we give up? For cap reasons. Bieksa's making 4.6.

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06-30-2013, 09:43 AM
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hmmm....what team needs defenseman badly? Penguins? Flyers? Dont see those teams doing a blockbuster with the Rangers. Carolina does too, but their forwards arent all that appealing, Tlustys shooting % is unsustainable.

I mean, I guess Staal for Tlusty +#5 would be good, but it doesnt really help us on the cap.

we've got too many forwards (not quality, quantity).

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If this is true, who else do we give up? For cap reasons. Bieksa's making 4.6.
MDZ's cap hit is 2.5. Perhaps he is dealt for a 1st rounder. That's 4.2M going out.

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06-30-2013, 09:44 AM
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If this is true, who else do we give up? For cap reasons. Bieksa's making 4.6.
Vancouver has no cap space whatsoever. They're not in a position of strength.

They'd probably add a draft pick just to get rid of that cap hit.

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06-30-2013, 09:50 AM
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if Staal is dealt, would it likely be to Carolina, and what could we expect back?
Why does Staal have to be traded to Carolina?

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If this is true, who else do we give up? For cap reasons. Bieksa's making 4.6.
Why would we be trading for another Defensive Dman? I would rather go after Edler, whose shot we need on the PP.

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This seems like foreshadowing to me...


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We should trade Marc Staal + to Carolina for Jordan and Eric Staal.

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Why would we be trading for another Defensive Dman? I would rather go after Edler, whose shot we need on the PP.
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If dealing Staal makes us a better team & more cap friendly i'm all for it.

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I think its kinda silly that Carolina wants all of Staals on their team, but if they are that enamored with the idea, lets make them over pay to make it happen now rather than later, if the brothers were all in on it from the start.

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We should trade Marc Staal + to Carolina for Jordan and Eric Staal.
And then trade MDZ + Boyle for Marc.

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I don't think it's the last name as much as Staal is a perfect fit in CAR right now. Cheap, physical top 4 dman. The name doesn't hurt however.

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