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06-30-2013, 08:48 AM
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So the entire deal was this?

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Seguin
Hamilton

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BSchenn
LSchenn
11th Overall

I think I would do that deal. Of course I doubt the Bruins would.

That does sound appetizing.

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06-30-2013, 08:49 AM
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Thanks. Ill have a look. Going from
Kenora, where I bumped into Richards, to the sault today. 11-13 hours.... Ugh. Then onto Toronto Canada day.
Holy smokes that's a ton of driving! Are you moving? At least the weather is nice.

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Hey! That's libel and the HFB attorneys are going to protect the good image of those "two players" to the fullest extent of the law; or, maybe some Flyers fans with Kings avatars will just flame you.

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06-30-2013, 09:25 AM
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Don't see how the Seguin deals benefits the Flyers in anyway. Flyers give up both Schenns for two players that have yet to fully prove themselves in the league and their 11th overall?

Living in Mass, I see a lot of the Bruins (including game 6 at the Garden). Someone I don't see is Seguin. He' invisible out there and is one of the easiest players to bump off the puck.

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06-30-2013, 09:32 AM
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Don't see how the Seguin deals benefits the Flyers in anyway. Flyers give up both Schenns for two players that have yet to fully prove themselves in the league and their 11th overall?

Living in Mass, I see a lot of the Bruins (including game 6 at the Garden). Someone I don't see is Seguin. He' invisible out there and is one of the easiest players to bump off the puck.
BSchenn is not proven either. LSchenn needs to show he is consistent season to season too.

I guess 67 points from Seguin in his 2nd season in the league means he has shown less than either Schenn so far. Hamilton is more developed than any d-man the Flyers could get with the 11th overall. The overrating by fans, including Flyers fans, for their own players continues.

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06-30-2013, 09:35 AM
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wait, Tyler Seguin's cap hit is 5.75 a year??? wtf is THAT about? and how did I miss that absurdity?

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wait, Tyler Seguin is making 5.75 a year??? wtf is THAT about?
He signed an extension before the lockout.

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wait, Tyler Seguin's cap hit is 5.75 a year??? wtf is THAT about? and how did I miss that absurdity?
That is a crazy amount for a 21 year old even if he did have 29 goals and 67 points a couple seasons ago.

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For me, it could be the fact I undervalue every Bruins player haha. I'd much rather stick with B. Schenn since he can do everything Seguin can and more.

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06-30-2013, 09:41 AM
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That is a crazy amount for a 21 year old even if he did have 29 goals and 67 points a couple seasons ago.
whats your point? Contracts are based on potential now a days, so....

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I really dont like that Kings deal at all. It essentially is just a salary clear (like Gagne for Walker). We don't need to just give away a player like Grossmann for salary reasons.

I can understand the hesitation to trade Coburn...but if he can get us a return anywhere near what has been rumored...I take those deals over dealing Mez or Grossmann for scrubs.

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That is a crazy amount for a 21 year old even if he did have 29 goals and 67 points a couple seasons ago.
I couldn't believe it when I seen it. Not sure how I missed it when he signed. What happened to earning your stripes? 29/67 is sweet and all, but jesus thats not Crosby numbers. Too much too soon IMO. I guess it was a get it in before the lockout happens contract, which is why we have lockouts in the firet place. Jesus no wonder why they wouldn't mind trading him.

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06-30-2013, 09:47 AM
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BSchenn is not proven either. LSchenn needs to show he is consistent season to season too.
I agree.

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Seguin in his 2nd season in the league means he has shown less than either Schenn so far. Hamilton is more developed than any d-man the Flyers could get with the 11th overall.
Same age as B. Schenn and almost twice as productive even this year.

Senguin > B. Schenn (right now)
Hamilton <? L.Schenn + 11th overall (this is a real question mark)

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Seguin is a soft player...do not want! His cap hit is even worse!

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06-30-2013, 09:52 AM
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Seguin is a soft player...do not want! His cap hit is even worse!
Getting Hamilton is an exciting idea, but I'd rather have BSchenn than Seguin going forward. Though based on production vs contract, I'll put them as equal.

BSchenn = Seguin
11th > nothing
LSchenn > Hamilton (for now)

You're basically paying the 11th for the hope that Hamilton becomes that much better than LSchenn.

The only way for this deal to favor Philadelphia is if Hamilton really turns into Chara or Pronger.

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For me, it could be the fact I undervalue every Bruins player haha. I'd much rather stick with B. Schenn since he can do everything Seguin can and more.
That is fair. Everyone has their own opinions. I just think Seguin can take over a game with his speed and skill. I see future superstar all over him. I also think Hamilton will become a legit #1 d-man as well.

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Yes! Shelley - Shelley - Shelley, Letang - Shelley, Fleury go for it!

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I really, really want this to happen. This would be hilarious.

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Carolina had 3 offers for the #5 pick per Dreger.
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06-30-2013, 09:59 AM
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I said it on the main boards, but I'll repeat it here. Seguin strikes me as a guy who's production level will never meet his talent level. Talent-wise, he should be a perennial 90 point , but I don't think he ever gets there. He's a lot like JVR in the sense that you'll always come away underwhelmed by his production, despite the fact he can dazzle you occasionally with pure skill.

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Renaud Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS 19s

Le contrat de Kristopher Letang. 8 and / 58 millions (#58!) 7.25 moy/année. Clause de non-échange. Son choix de 15 équipes. #RDS



This is awesome! Their cap is tied up so much in only a few players.


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