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06-30-2013, 09:43 AM
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I wouldn't trade for Horton's rights. He has said he wants to test free agency, I would assume that includes if his rights are traded.

But if we did the only of those I would consider is Howse. He won't be signed next summer IMO unless he has some sort of break out year.
If the Flames had permission to talk to Horton and think they can get him under contract, I'd trade for his rights so he can be signed to an eight year deal instead of seven.

But like Howse or a late pick. Not anything of significant value.

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If the Flames had permission to talk to Horton and think they can get him under contract, I'd trade for his rights so he can be signed to an eight year deal instead of seven.

But like Howse or a late pick. Not anything of significant value.
If we had permission to talk first, then sure. But I won't risk an asset unless there is a guarantee

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Horton is way to injury prone for my blood. I'd wouldn't even make him an offer personally.

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Horton is way to injury prone for my blood. I'd wouldn't even make him an offer personally.
100% I have no faith he will stay as competitive after year 2 of any term. He is going to have to change his play to stop getting hurt.

Big fat no to Horton.

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apparently the BJs are willing to deal Bob. He is reportedly asking 6+

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if smith gets 5.7 bob is worth 6 mil

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Horton plays a style that I think will have diminishing returns as he ages, I wouldn't want him signed for more than 4 years.

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6th and gaudreau is ok with me.
i'd be fine with it too.

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apparently the BJs are willing to deal Bob. He is reportedly asking 6+
If Onrait was still on TSN calling his highlights I'd offer him 10.

If anyone offers him that they are going to be extremely disappointed. One good half season doesn't warrant that kind of money. He'd be better off signing a 2 deal around 4.5 if he wants to stay in the NHL.

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If Onrait was still on TSN calling his highlights I'd offer him 10.

If anyone offers him that they are going to be extremely disappointed. One good half season doesn't warrant that kind of money. He'd be better off signing a 2 deal around 4.5 if he wants to stay in the NHL.
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If Onrait was still on TSN calling his highlights I'd offer him 10.

If anyone offers him that they are going to be extremely disappointed. One good half season doesn't warrant that kind of money. He'd be better off signing a 2 deal around 4.5 if he wants to stay in the NHL.
4.5 is to low. its a half season but he is worth 5m+. if smith get 5.7 bob can get 6. goalies are getting a lot of money lately.

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4.5 is to low. its a half season but he is worth 5m+. if smith get 5.7 bob can get 6. goalies are getting a lot of money lately.
Smith shoud give a percentage of his salary to Tippett.

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If Onrait was still on TSN calling his highlights I'd offer him 10.

If anyone offers him that they are going to be extremely disappointed. One good half season doesn't warrant that kind of money. He'd be better off signing a 2 deal around 4.5 if he wants to stay in the NHL.
Do you mean what Kipper got in a lower salary cap, I think that is the kind of deal Bob gets.

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This is where this should have been posted originally, sorry!

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If we could get Seguin this summer, I'd still offer next years first++ for Seguin plus Boston's first/second. Say...

Glencross and/or Giordano, 2014 first, 2014 4th

For

Seguin and Boston's 1st/2nd

Understandably we could be picking top 3, but Seguin was a 2nd pick himself and is everything we hope Reinhart/Ekblad could turn into, he can step in much sooner and help the rebuild that much more.

Next season:

Cammalleri - Seguin - Hudler
Baertschi - Backlund - Jones
Stajan - Monahan - Stempniak
Bouma - Knight - McGrattan
Horak/Jackman

Seguin and Monahan, two defensive centers with offensive talent and top line potentential. Then add faceoff specialist Knight anchoring the third line and we are well on our way to being a great team down the middle. Jankowski is playing a lot of wing in college as it stands right now, but if he develops then we could look something more like this in a few years:

Baertschi - Monahan - Poirier
Gaudreau - Jankowski - Seguin

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4.5 is to low. its a half season but he is worth 5m+. if smith get 5.7 bob can get 6. goalies are getting a lot of money lately.
Why because he played a half season of good hockey? What happens if he goes to like what happened to Mason there? Then you have an immovable liability. He's still to young and far to risky to pay 6+ over a long term. That's why we had a lockout, those types of contracts being handed out to unproven players needs to stop.

He got a 2 year deal so their GM made the right move.

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If the Flames had permission to talk to Horton and think they can get him under contract, I'd trade for his rights so he can be signed to an eight year deal instead of seven.

But like Howse or a late pick. Not anything of significant value.
This kind of thinking is what has made Calgary a lottery team.

There os zero chance that signing Horton for 8 years will work out well for the team how signs that contract.

8 years contracts are for the truly elite, not the injury prone good players.

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This kind of thinking is what has made Calgary a lottery team.

There os zero chance that signing Horton for 8 years will work out well for the team how signs that contract.

8 years contracts are for the truly elite, not the injury prone good players.
The point was that is the only reason to trade for his rights, not that it was a good idea.

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What would you guys think of

Stempniak for Niskanen?

Then try to sign Mueller to replace Stempniak

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What would you guys think of

Stempniak for Niskanen?

Then try to sign Mueller to replace Stempniak
Would rather keep Stempniak and sign Mueller. Be nice to have a second RW on the team.

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What would you guys think of
Stempniak for Niskanen?
Then try to sign Mueller to replace Stempniak
Yes, and yes.

I don't think the first would be a yes from the Pens POV; only problem.

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Would rather keep Stempniak and sign Mueller. Be nice to have a second RW on the team.
I think we have to move a forward to address our lack of top 4 defenseman.

Sven - Backlund - Jones
Glencross - Stajan - Mueller
Hudler - Monahan/Knight - Galiradi
Bouma - Knight/UFA - Jackman

Gio - Wideman
Brodie - Niskanen
Butler - Cundari
O'Brien

Unless we sign Ballard.

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Yes, and yes.

I don't think the first would be a yes from the Pens POV; only problem.
Yea I think it depends on how ready their prospects are and if they miss out on a RW in FA.

Orpik could be another option.

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Don't mean to offend anyone, but i think we should pass on Mueller. He'll never be the player we all thought he would be when he was drafted, and hes one head shot away from permanent retirement.

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Roger Millions tweeted that the Flames are in on Bozak:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/n...atest-reports/

TSN is reporting the same thing

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426921


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Roger Millions is also twittering about Mason Raymond
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It appears Mason Raymond is headed to Unrestricted Free Agency. As suggested weeks ago #Flames may be in on him. made 2.25M #Hownuchgetshim?

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