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06-30-2013, 03:56 PM
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after reading his scouting reports he sounds just like coburn. Great skating big defenseman that can get the puck out of his zone by pass or by skating.

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Morin will be on the team to start the year LOL.

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after reading his scouting reports he sounds just like coburn. Great skating big defenseman that can get the puck out of his zone by pass or by skating.
His Hockey IQ is a plus though.

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06-30-2013, 04:00 PM
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Far from a stretch, very doubtful that they could have traded back and still get him.

A good, decently safe pick. A smart step towards developping a solid defensive corps.
You had me till here. This was one of the least safe selections in the draft. Certainly a guy with reasonable bust potential. High ceiling because he has size and can skate, but a long way off from being an actual NHL defenseman.

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Incase a hone wants to see video of him, here's a highlight of the u18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXBsU...e_gdata_player

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You had me till here. This was one of the least safe selections in the draft. Certainly a guy with reasonable bust potential. High ceiling because he has size and can skate, but a long way off from being an actual NHL defenseman.
Sadly I agree. Big guys with little offensive potential usually bust. However, like you said he does have size and can skate a little so it may work out

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You had me till here. This was one of the least safe selections in the draft. Certainly a guy with reasonable bust potential. High ceiling because he has size and can skate, but a long way off from being an actual NHL defenseman.
That's your opinion, but I'd be very surprised he busts. «One of the least safe selections» sounds a bit melodramatic no matter the point of view.

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06-30-2013, 04:06 PM
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Sadly I agree. Big guys with little offensive potential usually bust. However, like you said he does have size and can skate a little so it may work out
In order to like this pick, you need to put all of your faith in the history of the Flyers in drafting forwards and hoping that translates into this defensive defensemen. Not much else to say about the pick. Looking more forward to our 2nd rounder than our first at this stage.

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Per Tim P.:

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Morin went on at length about his love for Pronger and how he models self after him
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Chris Pronger gave a great interview on Samuel Morin. It was like talking to the old Pronger. Funny, insightful, etc. He's feeling good

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That's your opinion, but I'd be very surprised he busts. «One of the least safe selections» sounds a bit melodramatic no matter the point of view.
Which of the first round picks would you define as "less safe" at this stage of the draft? Safe is a relative term based upon the players around him.

When you take a 17 year old defenseman 11th overall, it's inherently risky, particularly when that player hasn't been highly rated until the last 2 months.

Trust me when I say I would love to eat crow and have Morin turn into a stud. It's entirely possible he will. However, given how far out in his development this player is, it is absolutely a highly risky selection.

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With Pronger, Timmo and now Streit, the kid has the best to learn from. Cut him some damn slack.

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He's not going to play with Pronger, and unlikely Timonen, so that's not likely.

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He's not going to play with Pronger, and unlikely Timonen, so that's not likely.
Exactly. When are these players teaching Morin? For two weeks in camp when they are focusing on their own games? Via telephone?

Morin's development is going to occur with Rimouski Oceanic for the most part... not with Philadelphia. Several seasons away from being AHL eligible.

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FWIW, I got my uninformed Flyer Fan opinion on the pick by talking to my brother.

He doesn't follow any of the pre-draft stuff, any junior stuff, etc... Has no idea who the guy is so this is the review

"Big Boy...Aint gonna take no ****. Great pick."

So there you go. I expect that to be the view of a majority of Flyers fans. Not the fans in this forum who actually pay attention and know some of these guys going into the draft though.

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Exactly. When are these players teaching Morin? For two weeks in camp when they are focusing on their own games? Via telephone?

Morin's development is going to occur with Rimouski Oceanic for the most part... not with Philadelphia. Several seasons away from being AHL eligible.
Exactly, learning from other players is WAY overrated. If they dot have enough skill to play, even the likes of Gretzky, Lemieux, Jagr, Pronger, Lidstrom,etc. won't be able to do anything to make them learn.

I'm sure Pronger was a lot of kids favorite player growing up, but how many will turn out to be like him?

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Exactly, learning from other players is WAY overrated. If they dot have enough skill to play, even the likes of Gretzky, Lemieux, Jagr, Pronger, Lidstrom,etc. won't be able to do anything to make them learn.

I'm sure Pronger was a lot of kids favorite player growing up, but how many will turn out to be like him?
Players can teach a guy that is on their team. I buy that. Morin isn't that close to the NHL. I truly believe that Giroux learned from Briere about being a pro. Schenn definitely learned from Pronger and Timmo.

Morin is 17. He's got several years before the opportunity to learn at the NHL level. He'll be learning from L. Schenn... Coburn... maybe a bit from Streit during the last couple years of his deal.

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i don't think he'll ever make the flyers roster. Should have taken domi don't care if it isn't a need he's a better player.
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Chris Pronger can't pass his skill and abilities to Morin through osmosis.

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It's good that a few people here don't understand how veterans and former players mentor the young guys, especially when there are truckloads of evidence to the contrary. They even do it DURING games. coughjagrcough.

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Players can teach a guy that is on their team. I buy that. Morin isn't that close to the NHL. I truly believe that Giroux learned from Briere about being a pro. Schenn definitely learned from Pronger and Timmo.

Morin is 17. He's got several years before the opportunity to learn at the NHL level. He'll be learning from L. Schenn... Coburn... maybe a bit from Streit during the last couple years of his deal.
They can teach them but if they don't have the skill, they can't teach that

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It's good that a few people here don't understand how veterans and former players mentor the young guys, especially when there are truckloads of evidence to the contrary. They even do it DURING games. coughjagrcough.
There's a difference between mentorig and teaching. You can't teach someone how to have skill(espicially at 17 or 18 years old) but you can mentor them how to be a pro.

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It's good that a few people here don't understand how veterans and former players mentor the young guys, especially when there are truckloads of evidence to the contrary. They even do it DURING games. coughjagrcough.
or maybe practice even? Heresay, I know

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Chris Pronger can't pass his skill and abilities to Morin through osmosis.
They can help a player examine holes in their game, show them the right decisions, recognize the right plays, at which point it is the player himself that must familiarize himself with what was told.

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From looking at his highlights, he seems to move the puck really well. Smart defensively.

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