HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > New York Rangers
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

2013 Offseason Thread Part VI: Vinny Lecavalier chooses Philly (5 years, $4.5M per)

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
07-01-2013, 08:33 AM
  #576
Punxrocknyc19*
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 10,233
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by FultonReed View Post
agreed. instead of trying to move Clowe, they should have packaged 2 of these guys in a deal (personally, i'd send out Pyatt and Powe) for some picks or something. the bottom six is really gonna struggle again if those 3 are in the line up regularly.
there is a serious problem if Miller and Lindberg does not make the team out of camp over the 2 out of Powe Asham and Boyle

Punxrocknyc19* is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 08:37 AM
  #577
FultonReed
ew, you did what?
 
FultonReed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 1,409
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Punxrocknyc19 View Post
there is a serious problem if Miller and Lindberg does not make the team out of camp over the 2 out of Powe Asham and Boyle
i completely agree. what happens to those guys if Miller and Lindberg DO make it, though? what do we do with Pyatt/Powe/Asham/Boyle? i think BB is worth keeping around, for faceoff and defensive purposes, despite his cap hit. and Asham, as much as you guys might not like him, and as much as his back might not like him anymore, he did things for us in the playoffs. he doesn't have to play a full 82 game season. i'd like him as the spare forward. but the other 2? no thanks.

FultonReed is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 08:37 AM
  #578
GAGLine
Registered User
 
GAGLine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 9,275
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR Viper View Post
Can't with the new CBA. Up to 900k I believe.
They can still be buried, but anything above 925k counts against the cap. That amount goes up as the league minimum goes up. Asham's cap hit is 1 mil. Powe's is 1.067 mil. Asham in Hartford would count 75k against the cap.

GAGLine is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 08:41 AM
  #579
Kris Chreider
Pass Off The Pads
 
Kris Chreider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: NYC/Minneapolis
Country: United States
Posts: 7,452
vCash: 500
According to some Nashville guys on the main trade board Ellis is available for a top six forward. Hagelin? Then we can pull the trigger on a Staal deal that gets us an elite forward.

Kris Chreider is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 08:43 AM
  #580
GAGLine
Registered User
 
GAGLine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 9,275
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris Chreider View Post
According to some Nashville guys on the main trade board Ellis is available for a top six forward. Hagelin? Then we can pull the trigger on a Staal deal that gets us an elite forward.
Hell no. Why are people always throwing Hagelin into trades? We need more players like him, not less.

GAGLine is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 08:45 AM
  #581
RangerBoy
#freejtmiller
 
RangerBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: New York
Country: United States
Posts: 31,865
vCash: 500
From: @Ledger_NJDevils
Sent: Jul 1, 2013 9:25a

Devils are close to re-signing veteran forward Patrik Elias. It appears he will not test the market.

sent via web
On Twitter: http://twitter.com/Ledger_NJDevils/s...93056573063169

RangerBoy is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 08:47 AM
  #582
RangerBoy
#freejtmiller
 
RangerBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: New York
Country: United States
Posts: 31,865
vCash: 500
NHL minimum salary plus $375,000. Its $550,000 in 13-14. $925,000. Minimum salaries will increase during the CBA.

RangerBoy is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 08:49 AM
  #583
NYR Viper
Moderator
 
NYR Viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Country: United States
Posts: 28,560
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RangerBoy View Post
From: @Ledger_NJDevils
Sent: Jul 1, 2013 9:25a

Devils are close to re-signing veteran forward Patrik Elias. It appears he will not test the market.

sent via web
On Twitter: http://twitter.com/Ledger_NJDevils/s...93056573063169
I hate the Devils, but he should stay there. True class that guy.

NYR Viper is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 08:52 AM
  #584
Florida Ranger
Bring back Torts!
 
Florida Ranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Tampa, FLA
Country: United States
Posts: 6,002
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Punxrocknyc19 View Post
there is a serious problem if Miller and Lindberg does not make the team out of camp over the 2 out of Powe Asham and Boyle
Switch Boyle with Dorsett and I may agree, but they do have some sort of use for the 4th line. Not necessarily the complete energy line we need, but they're servicable players. Boyle is better than all three.

Florida Ranger is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 08:58 AM
  #585
Punxrocknyc19*
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 10,233
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Florida Ranger View Post
Switch Boyle with Dorsett and I may agree, but they do have some sort of use for the 4th line. Not necessarily the complete energy line we need, but they're servicable players. Boyle is better than all three.
Dorsett is more needed on this team. Rangers need that player to get those superstars like Kovalchuk Crosby off of their game.. watch Dorsett once Rangers play Devils... Rangers fans will love it when Kovalchuk and Dorsett each get 2 for roughing and Rangers score on the 4 on 4

Punxrocknyc19* is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 08:59 AM
  #586
Bardof425*
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,028
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Florida Ranger View Post
Switch Boyle with Dorsett and I may agree, but they do have some sort of use for the 4th line. Not necessarily the complete energy line we need, but they're servicable players. Boyle is better than all three.
Boyle stinks; Dorsett does not. Dorsett >> Boyle

Bardof425* is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 09:08 AM
  #587
Florida Ranger
Bring back Torts!
 
Florida Ranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Tampa, FLA
Country: United States
Posts: 6,002
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Punxrocknyc19 View Post
Dorsett is more needed on this team. Rangers need that player to get those superstars like Kovalchuk Crosby off of their game.. watch Dorsett once Rangers play Devils... Rangers fans will love it when Kovalchuk and Dorsett each get 2 for roughing and Rangers score on the 4 on 4
I don't know about more needed... For more energy, definitely.

I agree with everything else. Dorsett is a great fourth liner. I just think Boyle can give us more all around on the 4th line.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bardof425 View Post
Boyle stinks; Dorsett does not. Dorsett >> Boyle
Solid debate.

Florida Ranger is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 09:10 AM
  #588
nsvoyageurs
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Country: Canada
Posts: 377
vCash: 500
Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie 30 Jun

Edler primary point man in Van for Vigneault. NYR not in yet but likely to be involved.

nsvoyageurs is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 09:14 AM
  #589
FultonReed
ew, you did what?
 
FultonReed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 1,409
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by nsvoyageurs View Post
Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie 30 Jun

Edler primary point man in Van for Vigneault. NYR not in yet but likely to be involved.
they were taking calls on him yesterday, i believe. i'd take him (MOAR LEFTIES), but for what cost, though?

FultonReed is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 09:14 AM
  #590
NYR Viper
Moderator
 
NYR Viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Country: United States
Posts: 28,560
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by FultonReed View Post
they were taking calls on him yesterday, i believe. i'd take him, but for what cost, though?
Cost would be very high.

NYR Viper is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 09:14 AM
  #591
jniklast
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Country: Germany
Posts: 4,749
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Punxrocknyc19 View Post
Dorsett is more needed on this team. Rangers need that player to get those superstars like Kovalchuk Crosby off of their game.. watch Dorsett once Rangers play Devils... Rangers fans will love it when Kovalchuk and Dorsett each get 2 for roughing and Rangers score on the 4 on 4
That would be a novelty...

jniklast is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 09:14 AM
  #592
Vitto79
Registered User
 
Vitto79's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sarnia
Country: Canada
Posts: 16,553
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR Viper View Post
It's going to be ugly if they go into next season with Asham, Powe, Pyatt playing every night.
doubt that happens. Pyatt should have some value while I think both Asham/Powe will both be on the roster but 12/13 F so rotate

Vitto79 is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 09:15 AM
  #593
FultonReed
ew, you did what?
 
FultonReed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 1,409
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR Viper View Post
Cost would be very high.
oh no i know lol that's why i asked. wanted to see what you guys thought

FultonReed is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 09:18 AM
  #594
GAGLine
Registered User
 
GAGLine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 9,275
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by nsvoyageurs View Post
Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie 30 Jun

Edler primary point man in Van for Vigneault. NYR not in yet but likely to be involved.
I don't see the Rangers making a trade for him. The cost will only be higher now that Van cleared cap space with the Schneider trade. And he's yet another LH dman. His cap hit is 5 mil per year, so we'd have to move significant salary to fit him in.

GAGLine is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 09:36 AM
  #595
UnderPSI
Formerly YMMV
 
UnderPSI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Morris Co, NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 799
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR Viper View Post
Cost would be very high.
I concur. They were asking for a huge return. They weren't pushing to move him but if the right deal came along they would (Case could be said for most players).

I like Edler but we need the other side addressed.

Also from Books article:

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/nhlblo...#axzz2XntCAjRe

Quote:
Edler has six years at $5M per remaining on his contract, a number the Rangers would have great difficulty accomodating under the cap
This is another issue. Let me reiterate, 5M X 6YRS.

UnderPSI is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 10:05 AM
  #596
RangerBoy
#freejtmiller
 
RangerBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: New York
Country: United States
Posts: 31,865
vCash: 500
Kyper tweeted VAN wanted 2 NHL roster players and a #1 pick for Edler. Very steep price. That's why he wasn't traded. Wings,Ducks and Habs were interested. Habs mnade an offer.

RangerBoy is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 10:17 AM
  #597
iamitter
Thornton's Hen
 
iamitter's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC
Country: United States
Posts: 3,374
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR Viper View Post
Can't with the new CBA. Up to 900k I believe.
So you'll have a 100k cap with Asham there, ~200k with Powe or ~600k with Pyatt.

iamitter is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 10:23 AM
  #598
Lundsanity30
Registered User
 
Lundsanity30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 10,502
vCash: 500
Rangers should keep Del Zotto and give him one more year to see if he become a PMD under AV. Fix the bottom 6

Lundsanity30 is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 10:25 AM
  #599
NYR Viper
Moderator
 
NYR Viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Country: United States
Posts: 28,560
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lundsanity30 View Post
Rangers should keep Del Zotto and give him one more year to see if he become a PMD under AV. Fix the bottom 6
At this point, that is what seems to be happening. Although I am starting to doubt whether they will fix the bottom-6 or just let people battle it out.

NYR Viper is offline  
Old
07-01-2013, 10:28 AM
  #600
Vitto79
Registered User
 
Vitto79's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sarnia
Country: Canada
Posts: 16,553
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR Viper View Post
At this point, that is what seems to be happening. Although I am starting to doubt whether they will fix the bottom-6 or just let people battle it out.
Right now they have 7 D but we are not sure who the heck would play RD

McDonaugh, Girardi
Staal, Moore
Del Zotto, Stralman
Falk

It's not bad. I honestly like the D if everyone is healthy and if McIlrath develops its a big bonus later in the yr.

G will be the same with King and Biron

So really only changes will be at F. Yea I agree Pyatt, Powe can be moved out. Especially Pyatt at 1.5. not gonna cry if Powe is a spare

I don't get why everyone is on Asham. He got some goals in the playoffs, he can fight and they need a guy who can drop the gloves. Fine with Haley getting a shot too but it will be good to have a few guys around that can drop them. Falk helps in that regard too.

Vitto79 is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:20 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.