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07-01-2013, 12:17 PM
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Minnesota isnt in our division anymore.

Unless you mean conference.

Either way, both deals were ridiculous if reports are to be believed.

The Isles got fleeced and the Devils did alright, but Im not a big fan of Schneider. I would rather have Nurse and whatever else would have been required.

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07-01-2013, 12:19 PM
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He did quip on twitter to Hall about joining an Ironman thing
He did that because he was going to call him later in the day. He said that in his latest interview.

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07-01-2013, 12:20 PM
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Also,why couldn't Craig Mactavish trade up with his 2nd round pick?


We could've had Fucale,now.

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07-01-2013, 12:21 PM
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Minnesota isnt in our division anymore.

Unless you mean conference.

Either way, both deals were ridiculous if reports are to be believed.

The Isles got fleeced and the Devils did alright, but Im not a big fan of Schneider. I would rather have Nurse and whatever else would have been required.
I think that's the biggest positive out of MacT's draft performance. He didn't do anything stupid out of desperation.

And I think that's actually a bigger win than it sounds. New GM, lots of pressure to improve a struggling team. . . the ingredients were there for a bad trade.

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07-01-2013, 12:24 PM
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Hopefully, you're right, because if Craig Mactavish can't make the much needed trades;we are most likely going to miss out on the playoffs for another season.
Like i've been posting in about every single thread, there's plenty of time.

It's stupid to give a guy an F- based on ONE DAY.

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07-01-2013, 12:29 PM
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I think MacT's performance so far has been fine, it's the PR machine that has sucked. Pinning everything that has gone wrong in the rebuild on Tambellini and suggesting MacT would ride in on a white horse and save the team was laughable. It's not so easy to trade build a team up when it's been so low and being "Bold" is just as likely to set your team back as it is to move it forward. You know who was a "Bold" Gm? Mike Milbury. Where'd he get the Islanders?

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07-01-2013, 12:31 PM
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I love all the comments about how we should've been in on xxx player.

How do you know we weren't? How do you know the teams weren't asking for too much? From the reports a week or so ago, MacT was all over the place talking to teams - that's not good enough? Do we want a trade for the sake of a trade?

It wouldn't surprise me that if MacT pulled the trigger on some of these deals you'd all be *****ing about how we overpaid.

He's still in on Coburn and we'll see how free agency goes before there's any judgement from my side.

I liked how he drafted, so he gets an A from me so far.

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07-01-2013, 12:32 PM
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Also,why couldn't Craig Mactavish trade up with his 2nd round pick?


We could've had Fucale,now.
His biggest blunder IMO yesterday.

Wanted a goalie all this time. Had the opp but decided against it to scoop up more later round picks.

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07-01-2013, 12:33 PM
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Minnesota isnt in our division anymore.

Unless you mean conference.

Either way, both deals were ridiculous if reports are to be believed.

The Isles got fleeced and the Devils did alright, but Im not a big fan of Schneider. I would rather have Nurse and whatever else would have been required.
Yeah, forgot about that. Either way, I'm glad MacT didn't try to match that offer if he had the chance. Gonna be another deal the Isles regret.

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07-01-2013, 12:36 PM
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His biggest blunder IMO yesterday.

Wanted a goalie all this time. Had the opp but decided against it to scoop up more later round picks.
If that was his biggest blunder then he deserves an A for his work yesterday. I don't know much about the later picks we made but missing out on a goalie prospect is hardly a blunder..

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07-01-2013, 12:39 PM
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Goalie smoalie, ever year you can pick one up for peanuts so why waste a 2nd and 5 years minimum developing them. We needed a stay at home stud D and got one who is no more than a season away. We can get a center.

MacT did fine, I can just imagine this place if he chose the Russian!

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07-01-2013, 12:40 PM
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I'll wait training camp starts. If any of Hemsky, Horcoff, or Belanger are on this roster. Then he failed. Then I'll wait until the end of the season to assess again.

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07-01-2013, 12:41 PM
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If that was his biggest blunder then he deserves an A for his work yesterday. I don't know much about the later picks we made but missing out on a goalie prospect is hardly a blunder..
This.

MacT has done well so far.

Eakins was a good hire. Acton will bring some more fresh blood and not an 'old boy'. Sucks Smith and Bucky are still around, but it provides continuity.

Anything more than than the 7th overall and a little plus would have been a huge over payment for Schneider. Potentially for the best a deal didn't come off, although to anyone saying Dubnyk >/= Schneider ... really?

After the next week or so will be a better time to judge MacT as GM.

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Meh, chances are Fucale busts anyway. Still would have been nice to have him.

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07-01-2013, 12:45 PM
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B- for me.

I was hoping for a trade yesterday for Coburn but it wasn't a success. I can't blame it on him though if the asking price was ridiculous. Not a lot of moves in general were made. But it did waste currency.


Not mad about not trading up for Fucale, I think Edmonton needs to look to older European goalies.

Was perplexed at the trade down, I thought out Ana 2nd could of been used for that, at least the 2 3rd rounders (maybe not 4th).

Was very happy who he chose in the 3rd round. Very good quality vs. draft location.

Would of been happier with Zykov and Bognan. Slepyshev probably would have dropped to 4th round, but who knows.

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07-01-2013, 01:02 PM
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This.

MacT has done well so far.

Eakins was a good hire. Acton will bring some more fresh blood and not an 'old boy'. Sucks Smith and Bucky are still around, but it provides continuity.

Anything more than than the 7th overall and a little plus would have been a huge over payment for Schneider. Potentially for the best a deal didn't come off, although to anyone saying Dubnyk >/= Schneider ... really?

After the next week or so will be a better time to judge MacT as GM.
If you don't think Acton is one of the "old boys" you should look up the 1987-1988 roster.

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07-01-2013, 01:05 PM
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I'm not mad about his performance other than him not being in on Bolland. If he was just sitting back I would have been ticked, but he went after Schneider and Coburne pretty hard.

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was just the draft

I'm more concerned with roster turnover.

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Loved the draft.


And I can't really blame him for not making any trades.

There's virtually been none up to this point.

Obviously the prices are too high or something else has most of the GMs gun shy right now.

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07-01-2013, 01:14 PM
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If you don't think Acton is one of the "old boys" you should look up the 1987-1988 roster.
Does not mean he wasn't a great hire.. Check CBJ board and you will know how good he was for them. IMO MacT traded one time too many but o well.. Hopefully one of the extra 3rds and 4th amount to something..

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B- for me.

I was hoping for a trade yesterday for Coburn but it wasn't a success. I can't blame it on him though if the asking price was ridiculous. Not a lot of moves in general were made. But it did waste currency.


Not mad about not trading up for Fucale, I think Edmonton needs to look to older European goalies.

Was perplexed at the trade down, I thought out Ana 2nd could of been used for that, at least the 2 3rd rounders (maybe not 4th).

Was very happy who he chose in the 3rd round. Very good quality vs. draft location.

Would of been happier with Zykov and Bognan. Slepyshev probably would have dropped to 4th round, but who knows.
Just in regards to the bolded above...

Supposedly MacT and Holmgren met around 15 times yesterday and, although they didn't get anything done then, they're supposedly continuing talks.

It's not over yet

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07-01-2013, 01:20 PM
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I bet they want Paajarvi.

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Amnesty buy-outs combined with cap going down will improve MacT's chances of addressing roster holes via free agency. I think he will land either a top 4 d-man or a top 6 LW.

IMHO, he will have to keep Horcoff for one more year and move Hemsky for a 3rd line winger, while eating 1-1.5M in salary.
Than move next year's 2nd plus a D prospect (Gernat/Musil/Davidson/Fedun) for defensive/top 6 help help.
The roster will look something like:

Dubnyk
X

Smid-Petry
J.Schultz-X
Belov-N.Schultz
Potter
Klefbom to the AHL

Hall-Gagner-Eberle
X-Horcoff-Yakupov
Paajarvi-Belanger-X
Smyth-Lander-Brown
Eager

Once RNH comes back, he bumps everybody down the depth chart.

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07-01-2013, 01:24 PM
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His most significant move and most important has been to hire eakins which i give him an A for.

In the draft there were 7 trades for players, that means about 25 other teams did nothing. We were in on at least two of those guys, clutterbuck and scheinder. clutterbuck was always being traded east;

Bolland got to basically choose to go to TO so stop rambling about how MacT should have got him, it was never even an option;

Scheinder I wanted and i was very glad Mact wanted him too because DD is not the answer, alas, trading klef and the first would have been ridiculous so im glad he passed... I'm pretty sure we offered the first and a second and possible a prospect like pitlick, ultimately, he was never being traded here without a core piece, i don't know how you can fault him for: A wanting scheinder, or B refusing to give up a kings ransom to get him... Ultimately he helped gillis look more like an idiot than he already is...

Coburn... I was really hoping this would get done, he'd be a great player to have until Nurse is ready, we'll see what happens, again I think its shows MacT realizes he needs another top 4 Dman

Draft; like the Nurse pick more and more, Nich was an absolute gamble this organization doesn't have to take, Nurse has huge upside

My biggest concerns:

He didn't move up and try and grab Lazar or Horvat, both of which would have been great additions and depth, we need players like this.

We need centre depth,

we need a goalie, at the very least is a 1B to time share

We need a top 4 d man who can log big minutes against good competition

We need bottom 6 players who compete and can score

Still a long ways to go... still lots of time left to address some of these issues

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Wouldnt seven trades = 14 teams?

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