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07-02-2013, 09:25 AM
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Nashville invests a lot of high picks on defensemen. Conversely, they don't invest as many on forwards which is why their offense stinks. A lot of pundits are raving about how lucky they were to get Seth Jones but in reality that was the worst possible outcome for them at four. They still have nobody who can score.
Yeah and there really is nothing out there this offseason that they could bring in. A lot of the big name guys are complimentary players that need to be on a line with someone else to flourish.

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07-02-2013, 09:26 AM
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Or of they ever decide to pay for more than an AHL forward lineup.
I don't even think it's a money thing as much as it's a philosophy issue. They won't bring on a forward that isn't at least good defensively. Sometimes you have to sacrifice some of the defensive responsibility to bring in a gamebreaker or two.

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Nashville invests a lot of high picks on defensemen. Conversely, they don't invest as many on forwards which is why their offense stinks. A lot of pundits are raving about how lucky they were to get Seth Jones but in reality that was the worst possible outcome for them at four. They still have nobody who can score.
I'll never fault them four taking Jones at four, despite the fact that need would have had them take a forward. Both Tampa and Florida are going to regret that one in a couple of years. Barkov and Drouin are good players, but Jones has the potential to be the best defenseman in the league. I think Nashville will be alright with Weber, Jones, and Rinne dominating.

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07-02-2013, 09:28 AM
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Nashville invests a lot of high picks on defensemen. Conversely, they don't invest as many on forwards which is why their offense stinks. A lot of pundits are raving about how lucky they were to get Seth Jones but in reality that was the worst possible outcome for them at four. They still have nobody who can score.
I think Barry Trotz has a ton of influence in how this organization operates. He stresses defensive stability in his coaching, and probably wants that focus transfered throughout the Predators organization as a whole. This is of course speculation, but I bet he has a big say in which coaches get hired at all levels, and probably, some of the scouts they use. There is a good reason why they are so effective in developing dmen.

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07-02-2013, 09:34 AM
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Can't win if you can't score. Weber & Rinne will just get older. Rinne will be 31 next year.

I don't fault them for getting Jones either, no brainer, but they really needed a high end forward.

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07-02-2013, 09:39 AM
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Chances are they will be near the bottom again next year. They'll have a shot to grab a big name in next year's draft (though I don't know if that class compares to this one). And they have Forsberg, who may not be a big time point scorer, but he will be a solid player to have moving forward.

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07-02-2013, 09:40 AM
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Chances are they will be near the bottom again next year. They'll have a shot to grab a big name in next year's draft (though I don't know if that class compares to this one). And they have Forsberg, who may not be a big time point scorer, but he will be a solid player to have moving forward.
Valid, but then you are going into next year with Rinne going on 32 still trying to find scoring. At some point Rinne will start to slow down.

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Can't win if you can't score. Weber & Rinne will just get older. Rinne will be 31 next year.

I don't fault them for getting Jones either, no brainer, but they really needed a high end forward.
Jones for BSchenn? 4th overall in 2013 for 5th overall in 2009.

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07-02-2013, 10:00 AM
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I thought you'd like that, Pete. But I am awaiting your comments about Eriksson in the Morin sticky.
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07-02-2013, 11:24 AM
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I just can't believe the only rumor right now surrounding the Flyers is the Coburn one. Ryan front calmed down and there is nothing else being leaked. Either we are up to something really big, or we really are just letting our youth grow and keeping that core intact.

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07-02-2013, 11:27 AM
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I just can't believe the only rumor right now surrounding the Flyers is the Coburn one. Ryan front calmed down and there is nothing else being leaked. Either we are up to something really big, or we really are just letting our youth grow and keeping that core intact.
The deals we don't hear about are usually the ones that get done. I'm still nervous.


And just some FYI stuff, I was wondering about it and just seen this info...

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The figures below list the qualifying offers extended today by the Flyers:

(D) Erik Gustafsson — $850,500
(D) Brandon Manning — $715,000
(D) Oliver Lauridsen — $643,500
(LW) Eric Wellwood — $594,000
source:http://thehockeyguys.net/flyers-exte...e-for-newbury/


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07-02-2013, 11:37 AM
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The deals we don't hear about are usually the ones that get done. I'm still nervous.


And just some FYI stuff, I was wondering about it and just seen this info...



source:http://thehockeyguys.net/flyers-exte...e-for-newbury/
Yep I am a little nervous as well. I think if we make any moves it will come by Thursday though, so we have an understanding of exactly what we want to go for in free agency.

Also we qualified them yesterday I believe. Poile I believe is having a press conference down in Nashville today, most likely to announce that Blum and Halischuk wont get qualified. Hopefully Homer gives him a look.

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07-02-2013, 11:40 AM
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Sounds like Emery may be going back to CHI

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07-02-2013, 11:45 AM
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Sounds like Emery may be going back to CHI
Just furthering the rumors of Timmy Thomas coming here.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opin...er-sheets.html

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28. According to a source, Tim Thomas ordered new equipment about two months ago.
Looks like he made the decision some time ago.

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07-02-2013, 12:07 PM
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Blum will not get qualified according to Poile(put it in the other Blum thread as well)

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/s...95319753895938

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Kris Russell (STL) on regular waivers. Keith Ballard (VAN) clears regular waivers.
https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/s...95652987146240

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Hal Gill (NSH), Greg Zanon (COL), Matt Hunwick (COL) on regular waivers.
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07-02-2013, 12:09 PM
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Apparently Blum did not get a QO. Is he still an RFA or does that make him a UFA?

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07-02-2013, 12:10 PM
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Apparently Blum did not get a QO. Is he still an RFA or does that make him a UFA?
UFA.

Another player who interest me is Kris Russell from St Louis. Was just waived and could be had for nothing. We just need to get a defenseman out of here, or two.

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07-02-2013, 12:11 PM
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Just furthering the rumors of Timmy Thomas coming here.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opin...er-sheets.html



Looks like he made the decision some time ago.
Considering Thomas's gear recently hasn't had much of anything to do with his teas color scheme (the all white + silver gear he had with the bruins) id say that this likely doesn't have anything to do with where he'll sign. Why would he order new equipment when nothing is guaranteed? He probably just got his old gear updated to new equipment.

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07-02-2013, 12:12 PM
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I would seriously give Blum a shot here. Maybe give him a new system to do well in. Sign him for cheap and then trade Mez for a pick.

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Actually... nevermind, we don't really need him .

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So many D-men.

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07-02-2013, 12:14 PM
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Don't know if he can be trust on but take it for what it's worth.

From JIM STARK's twitter account.

"Was also told this morning that Lecavalier's decision could come down any time now and #Flyers are 1 of 3 teams he is now considering"

"@kevinskele Trade market still possible. Halak and Hiller, not Miller."

"I can tell you this right now baring sumthing unexpected Tim Thomas will be with #Flyers very soon. Halak/Hiller remain small possibilities"


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07-02-2013, 12:17 PM
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I followed that guy last year. Didn't get 1 prediction right. Then claimed things changed at the last minute.

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I would seriously give Blum a shot here. Maybe give him a new system to do well in. Sign him for cheap and then trade Mez for a pick.

Timonen-Schenn
Streit-Coburn
Grossmann-Gus

Actually... nevermind, we don't really need him .
Yeah I know what you mean but he'd be really nice to have when Grossmann inevitably gets injured (knee or head). I would much prefer to have a guy like Blum to insert then Gervais.

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I posted this in the Goulbourne thread but I figured I would post it here too. It's a good write up by Anthony SanFillippo about the draft and explanations for the picks and quotes from the staff.

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?...L%7CPHI%7Chome

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I followed that guy last year. Didn't get 1 prediction right. Then claimed things changed at the last minute.
Thanks.

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