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07-02-2013, 02:07 PM
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I never liked Pierre LeBrun. He and all the other "big" reporters like to speculate but rarely offer any scoops. They speculate conservatively and always use caveats and clauses so they seem reasonable but at the end of the day they bring a negligible amount of NEW and/or PERTINENT information to the public.

edit: I realize the posts got deleted by mods but Dallas is an inferior destination to Montreal in every single way except for the taxes.

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Can't blame him for wanting to go to Boston. Best chance at winning a cup.. but man he is going to get **** on.

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Lecavalier going to Boston would be the biggest slap in the face. Lucic and Chara will feel loved here as the boos won't be in their direction as much....

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Ah well

the dream was nice while it lasted.

Sad that we cant even lure hometown guys to the city. Even with new management. I should say, witout overpaying.

IF the reports are true, would love to hear his reasoning, as we know for fact that the habs want to bring him in.
Well supposedly Jagr was very interested in Montreal in the past, but it wasn't neutral.

Nobody really knows how these negotiations go though. For all we know Vinny was given a free oil well in Texas and never considered anywhere else. For all we know he's signing in Montreal tomorrow.

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Gio,Cammy,Cole..

That being said I was most surprised we got Prust. A lot of teams wanted him.
Of course it's untrue to say we never get any UFAs. But the hyped up ones? Think Hull, Shanahan, Briere, Hossa, Richards, Suter, Parise, etc.

The guys you named weren't the "it" guys. They were good and important signings though, not disputing that.


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Why?

He's a UFA, he gets to decide where he signs, just like every other UFA...

There's no need to get emotional about it.

That being said, I'd love to have him here, but I don't feel like he's obligated to...
You cant say all your life that you love a city and that it would be a dream to play with your childhood team and dont sing with them when you have the opportunity to do it. When they are a really good team and when they want you.

If he says no and sign somewhere else it just shows that he is a lier and that we never should have applaud him like we did at the allstar game. Cauze what he said was BS.

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I could be totally wrong, but gut feeling says Boston, Dallas and Detroit top options for Lecavalier if Montreal is a No... but guessing...

LeBrun hasn't jumped on the Dallas train. But he's speculating.
Will some tell Pierre Detroit is OUT of VL running....published in print....done
He isnt goin to Detroit

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Vinny is NOT the answer. He's a short-term fix to a much longer-term need.

I like Vinny. I'd be good with a two-year deal, assuming Bergevin is planning to stock the team for a playoff run in 2014. But if we're planning to peak in three years, Vinny's contribution starts to look very small, while his supposed $5M cap hit starts to look very, very big. Precisely what we DON'T need.

Move on...

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I could be totally wrong, but gut feeling says Boston, Dallas and Detroit top options for Lecavalier if Montreal is a No... but guessing...

LeBrun hasn't jumped on the Dallas train. But he's speculating.
Lol our chances are good, the way I see it...

- Habs or boston
- Habs or Dallas
- Habs or Detroit

Sounds like we have more chances than any other team.

I think some reporters don't want to talk about MTL because it's too obvious.

Though I remember the jagr to pens reports.

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For all we know, Vinny really wants to play for Montreal, but Bergevin insists on a 2 years contract @ 2.85M per...

I mean, he had some success with this approach in the past.

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For all we know, Vinny really wants to play for Montreal, but Bergevin insists on a 2 years contract @ 2.75M per...

I mean, he had some success with this approach in the past.
Bergevin is surely offering Vinny a bridge contract...

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Vinny is NOT the answer. He's a short-term fix to a much longer-term need.

I like Vinny. I'd be good with a two-year deal, assuming Bergevin is planning to stock the team for a playoff run in 2014. But if we're planning to peak in three years, Vinny's contribution starts to look very small, while his supposed $5M cap hit starts to look very, very big. Precisely what we DON'T need.

Move on...
the cap will go up.
Gionta, Markov wont be around.

Cap hit of 5 mil wont sink us

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Why would Boston be willing to spend $5M on a 33-year-old Vinny and not on a 27-year-old Horton? Makes no sense; Chiarelli's crunched for cash.

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This is only drama. He's going to be a Hab.

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Option A ) get swarmed by journalists and fans for the 4-5 years you play here

Option B) be universally hated by every hockey fan from your home city and jeered any time you visit.

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Why would Boston be willing to spend $5M on a 33-year-old Vinny and not on a 27-year-old Horton? Makes no sense; Chiarelli's crunched for cash.
Because that's not the reality at all and it's just mindless speculation ahead of July 5th.

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07-02-2013, 02:12 PM
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I wish I shared your confidence.

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Gio,Cammy,Cole..

That being said I was most surprised we got Prust. A lot of teams wanted him.
That's cause of his GF who is from here. We should thank her

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Option A ) get swarmed by journalists and fans for the 4-5 years you play here

Option B) be universally hated by every hockey fan from your home city and jeered any time you visit.
If by swarmed by journalists you mean get peewee league questions once a week from whiskey-nosed, lazy journalists who'd rather focus on charity drives, your family and/or your off-ice contributions, then yeah, your two options seem about right.

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I really dont want Vinny in montreal. I dont think he fits in. Am I the only one? Dallas is a perfect place for him.

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Why would Boston be willing to spend $5M on a 33-year-old Vinny and not on a 27-year-old Horton? Makes no sense; Chiarelli's crunched for cash.
Horton told Boston he was going to test the market. Rumors are his wife prefers the hot weather

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Gio,Cammy,Cole..

That being said I was most surprised we got Prust. A lot of teams wanted him.
Are all unimportant UFA's.

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You cant say all your life that you love a city and that it would be a dream to play with your childhood team and dont sing with them when you have the opportunity to do it. When they are a really good team and when they want you.

If he says no and sign somewhere else it just shows that he is a lier and that we never should have applaud him like we did at the allstar game. Cauze what he said was BS.
That doesn't make him a liar. It just means like 99.9% of professional athletes, childhood dreams are non-factor.

Professional athletes don't think like fans do. Their emotional investment is in their own game and their teammates that change every year, not sentimental loyalty.

Just because Lecavalier is from Montreal doesn't mean he wants to subject his family to 24/7 media attention. His kids have grown up mainly in Florida. I love Montreal and would rather live there than where I live now, but I can see how I'd think differently if I had a family to worry about. I have no idea what language he speaks with his kids at home, but I'm guessing they spent their entire lives going to English speaking schools in the U.S.

And of course Montreal could only have short term plans for him, while other teams are offering him more certainty.

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Maybe Lecavalier doesn't want to come here because he is scared of Renaud Lavoie. Maybe they aren't really friends and Lavoie stalks him like Jee stalks Pyretta.

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