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07-02-2013, 06:57 PM
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Refuses to pay the prices for UFA, refuses to make trades. Really what does he do anymore?

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Yeah that's a real Stanley Cup winning team, Not.
That's a better and more experienced team that was THE ONLY ONE who could push the Current Champion in 7 games and lose in overtime. And we did it without Darren Helm, Dan DeKeyser and Tomas Tatar.

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You seriously have to wonder if Illitch is going all in on the Tigers and is telling Holland to keep the wings payroll as low as possible (but still good enough to make the playoffs to generate them big dollars)
I've been suspecting that for awhile (considering how much Ilitch is going to have to spend on Cabrera and possibly Scherzer to keep them).

I don't understand a scenario where Ken Holland does nothing for years and repeats the same stuff over and over without something else influencing his decisions. I don't remember him being anything like this before 2009.

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The money is fine, the term is terrible. He's 33 and he got 5 years and a Full NMC.

I woulda went 5m per for 3 years tops.
For 4.5 mil with the cap going up every year? That is a decent contract. A lot better than most you'll see in a week from now for arguably the best UFA available this summer. I'm so peeved.

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Two years. That was the problem and that was their plan. Bring the kids in after those years and the term didn't fit.
And that moron of a journalist keeps reporting that Lecavalier is 34 despite the fact that he's born in April of 1980...

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I wonder if they will give Jarnkrok a legitimate chance to make the team now? (assuming he puts on weight).

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I wonder if they will give Jarnkrok a legitimate chance to make the team now? (assuming he puts on weight).
Seriously doubt it, he is going to have to rip up the AHL to be up next year in my opinion.

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That's a better and more experienced team that was THE ONLY ONE who could push the Current Champion in 7 games and lose in overtime.
Banking on if we have a healthy Bertuzzi, Samuelsson and Helm. It might not be all that bad we just had way to many injuries last year.

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So this will be the end of the playoff streak? Great.

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And that moron of a journalist keeps reporting that Lecavalier is 34 despite the fact that he's born in April of 1980...
Who cares... the term didn't fit to our prospect invasion, and age is just a number.

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Here we go again, I can hear the alarm go off.. "Then put your little hand in mine, there ain't no hill or mountain we can't climb...I got you babe..."

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Clarkson wants, 7 years 6.0 million per
Horton wants, 5 years, 6.0 million per (wants to be at warm south)
Filppula wants, 8 years, 5.5 million per
Bozak wants, 7 years, 5.0 million per

This freaking market is going to be insane. Players revenge from the lockout?
Vinny LC just came in cheaper than most expected

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The deal was 4 years not 5.

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This is pure speculation, it mentions nothing about tier 2 FA's, which the Red Wings were more likely to sign than high profile ones (Lecavalier, Clarkson, Horton, etc.)

I will say that this is the realistic list of people we could sign from FA:

Ryder (only if Brunner gone)
Clowe
Weiss (I'm considering this highly likely)
Ference

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And that moron of a journalist keeps reporting that Lecavalier is 34 despite the fact that he's born in April of 1980...
Yeah that's Helene St James for you, Some time i wonder if she has all her marbles there.

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I've been suspecting that for awhile (considering how much Ilitch is going to have to spend on Cabrera and possibly Scherzer to keep them).

I don't understand a scenario where Ken Holland does nothing for years and repeats the same stuff over and over without something else influencing his decisions. I don't remember him being anything like this before 2009.
Honestly I think they will make a splash when they are moving into the new building. At that point the prospects will be clear and they will want to make the big moves again. I am not sure how much the Tigers play into this, the Wings can operate on their own budget right at the cap and turn a profit. Ilitch's desires for a World Series, seem to be out of pocket because of how important that is to him and are unlikely to be a huge problem in terms of the Wings.

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Honestly, at $4.5M, I don't think this is that bad. By year 3 or 4, he bounces over to the Wing..
Cap should be at $75M by then

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That 4 years would be 5.625 caphit if it is 22.5 million total.

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I don't understand why you meet with a UFA and then feed it to the press you're concerned about his "pace"

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Honestly, at $4.5M, I don't think this is that bad. By year 3 or 4, he bounces over to the Wing..
Cap should be at $75M by then
Ken Holland FAILS AGAIN...hoooray

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Honestly, at $4.5M, I don't think this is that bad. By year 3 or 4, he bounces over to the Wing..
Cap should be at $75M by then
I believe Lecavalier explicitly stated he was not interested in playing wing.

That may change over the next couple years, but that can be a risk if he doesn't change his mind.

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The deal was 4 years not 5.
4 years is still to long for us imo. We already have an older top 6 we don't need another 35+ year old with a 5M+ cap hit. If Datsuyk/Zetterberg were 28 or 29, or if one of them was that age, I wouldn't mind it but to have 3 of them tying up around 18.8M in capspace when they will be declining is not a smart move.

I think the 2 year deal shows how they feel about Jarnkrok. This year in the AHL, next year as the 3C/2C. I guess we can look at as it's a good thing they value him that highly?

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Honestly, at $4.5M, I don't think this is that bad. By year 3 or 4, he bounces over to the Wing..
Cap should be at $75M by then
You still don't get it that the MAIN problem was the TERM?

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That 4 years would be 5.625 caphit if it is 22.5 million total.
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The deal was 4 years not 5.
It's 5 years.

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I don't understand why you meet with a UFA and then feed it to the press you're concerned about his "pace"
I thought it was her own theory. If it's Holland's I don't understand it either.

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