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07-02-2013, 08:39 PM
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The ugly truth of the matter is the same fans who are calling this an awful trade would be singing the exact same tune if we were trading Thomas to the Rangers for Kristo. The laughable part is that it is impossible for a trade to be terrible for both teams which provides absolute evidence that these posters post solely based on emotion instead of any tangible resemblance of hockey knowledge.

Ranger fans loved Thomas much in the same way that Gallagher was worshipped here as a prospect. I absolutely prefer Thomas and I think most of those people that are bawling right now will feel the same way in time.
Are you serious? They are comparing Thomas to Gallagher.
And you? Do you think Thomas can be compared to Gallagher.

I understand you are trying to make a point.
But 15 goals in 44 NHL games is way way better than 19 goals in 73 AHL games.
You could have said that Thomas did 54 goals in OHL. Second behind Toffoli.

We are talking about size here and Kristo was 5'11" and Thomas is 5'9".
Kristo had wheels and was good on defense.

The only way to make sense with this trade is that Kristo did not want to play with us.
If this is the case, I would have waited a bit so he could increase his value in AHL before trading him.

BTW, if we would have done the reverse, I would not complain.

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07-02-2013, 08:40 PM
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In AHL
Kristo (22 years old): 0 goal in 9 games
Thomas (20 years old): 19 goals in 73 games

And by the way, Thomas would have been the 1st scorer in Hamilton with 35 pts...

Of course, MB is a moron...
NYR was wise enough to have solid AHL vets on that team.

Kristo played with a random 30 years old local boy who was playing in minor league in Austria LOL. Sad part is he was our best player ( the owner of the Bulldogs had to call him LOL)

Forgot to add the mismanagement of the AHL team to MB brutal resumé.

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07-02-2013, 08:41 PM
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Was this posted already?

I got to say, it looks alot like a RHS Cammy.

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I just remembered this one time in an interview where Danny Kristo was wearing (maybe some of you don't know that yet) an...Oilers t-shirt.

Has he ever cared about this team? Don't really know tbh.
Yea I remember this...
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Thomas also played in one NHL game -- against the Habs no less -- recording around 12 minutes of ice time and 2 shots on net.
Cool! I'm warming up to Thomas.

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In AHL
Kristo (22 years old): 0 goal in 9 games
Thomas (20 years old): 19 goals in 73 games

And by the way, Thomas would have been the 1st scorer in Hamilton with 35 pts...

Of course, MB is a moron...
Erik Cole in 2011/2012

A veteran of many years in the NHL, 1 goal in the first 9 games. He finished the season with 35 goals.

Danny Kristo, the rookie, has 0 goals in his first 9 games in a new league with a new team.. what a ****ing bust.

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I got to say, it looks alot like a RHS Cammy.

Cool! I'm warming up to Thomas.
I'm noticing the same thing the more I see of this kid's clips...I'm still torn on this trade, cuz I've been a big Kristo fan, but Thomas seems to have one helluva shot and knows where to go to get it off...might just warm up to him yet...

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07-02-2013, 08:53 PM
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For all the bandwagon / fair weather Hab fans, and there's ton on this board, you should start by listening when MB speaks. Character, competitiveness and team players are the main criteria he looks for. Thomas is in that mold - he was captain at Oshawa. Even for the most ardent Kristo fans, this was not the case for Danny.

There has always been something slightly off with Kristo. A player that spends 4 years in college and does not come out looking bigger and stronger is a definite red flag. I think his 9 game stint in Hamilton spoke volumes. Guys like Hudon, who played many more games, and went through injuries, outplayed Kristo - who should of been relatively fresh.

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07-02-2013, 08:54 PM
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How can anyone miss the little ginger? He had attitude problem, didn't want to play in Montréal and the worst of all he's not even that great of a prospect.
The little ginger hahahahahahaha! Est bonne.

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07-02-2013, 08:59 PM
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Never had an opinion on Kristo, as I've never seen him play and he took forever to get here. Kinda meh about this but I'm glad we got someone younger and that looks to be more NHL ready than he is despite ginally going pro.

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Great thread. Would read again.


How about we give Thomas a chance?

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07-02-2013, 09:00 PM
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Kristo
NHL Draft Year: 2008
NHL games: 0

Thomas
NHL Draft Year: 2010
NHL games: 1
And your nickname is «Le dépisteur»...okay man. Whatever.

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Great thread. Would read again.


How about we give Thomas a chance?
no **** that ****! who needs cognition? we can all read hockeydb.com thank you very much

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Thomas has great speed, and a natural noise for the net. he's not like Gallagher crashing the net, he's more of a shooter perimeter player who likes to hit and fight. Yeah he's 5'9" 170lbs.

I remember a scout interview saying the gap between junior/college to AHL is much bigger than from AHL to NHL. Thomas dominated in OHL and he manage to score 19 goals in his first season in AHL. Kristo dominated in college and had a taste of AHL. Both have great speed. Thomas is more of a goal scorer point producing forward whereas Kristo is more shutdown defensive forward. Maybe the Habs just gave up on Kristo thinking that he'll never make it to the NHL.


Bottom line Thomas has more potential than Kristo.

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Thomas has great speed, and a natural noise for the net. he's not like Gallagher crashing the net, he's more of a shooter perimeter player who likes to hit and fight. Yeah he's 5'9" 170lbs.

I remember a scout interview saying the gap between junior/college to AHL is much bigger than from AHL to NHL. Thomas dominated in OHL and he manage to score 19 goals in his first season in AHL. Kristo dominated in college and had a taste of AHL. Both have great speed. Thomas is more of a goal scorer point producing forward whereas Kristo is more shutdown defensive forward. Maybe the Habs just gave up on Kristo thinking that he'll never make it to the NHL.


Bottom line Thomas has more potential than Kristo.
I hope you're right, but don't sell Kristo short, the kid has alot of potential...

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07-02-2013, 09:22 PM
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Great thread. Would read again.


How about we give Thomas a chance?
Should we give him the chance we were going to give Kristo?

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Reading the reactions today... wow is this board getting collectively dumber? Most posters don't know **** about Thomas yet they manage to make it seems like this trade is the worst robbery ever.

By the statistics, Thomas is looking ahead in terms of development and judging by the general crying, Kristo has to be one of the most overrated prospect since Duncan Milroy.

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Four years reading that Kristo was great, had wheels, was a snipper.
Two years where I read: When is he coming? Is he going to become UFA?

Now a lot are saying he is worth nothing.

Quite cute to see the bandwagon going with Thomas and saying Kristo is ****.

No doubt Thomas has a great shot and somehow reminds me of Cammy, especially on PP.

But for now, Kristo seems to be faster, better in defense and was the best scorer in WCHA.

It will take years before this is settled. My god, the Kreider-Leblanc discussion is still not over.
But I do expect Kristo to play at least 40 games in NHL next season.

BTW, comparing Kristo in AHL with Thomas in AHL is unfair. They were in different teams. CT scored 213 goals whereas Dogs did 159. That's 34% more.

Yes he was fourth in scoring with two players at 35 points.
But he was also 10th in ppg at par with Kreider (.48).
Among rookies in the Whale he was third at .48 behind Miller and Hrivik.
So please do not spin the numbers too much.
After all Kristo was the best of UND.

At first, this does not look so good.
Only thing we can do is wait and see if this turns out better than it looks for now.
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Reading the reactions today... wow is this board getting collectively dumber? Most posters don't know **** about Thomas yet they manage to make it seems like this trade is the worst robbery ever.

By the statistics, Thomas is looking ahead in terms of development and judging by the general crying, Kristo has to be one of the most overrated prospect since Duncan Milroy.
First reaction is based on size.
For months I read 5'9" is much smaller than 5'11".
Plus we are loaded with small players: DD, Gionta, Bouillon, Gallagher and now reway.

We all wanted to see what Kristo could do after years of waiting.

Maybe Thomas will turn to be as good or even better than Kristo.

But now, I am seeing a lot saying that Thomas is better than Kristo.
Maybe Thomas is the most overrated since Locke.
Same size, same stats at the same age.

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I'm not overly thrilled by Bergevin's tenure so far... maybe Management didn't feel Kristo was listening/committing to the counselling of the Hab's player development dept.?

Really would have liked to see him play a full year in Hamilton to better evaluate his play since we have already waited this long and he had just turned pro.

Honestly, making any trade with the Rangers since the Gomez trade gets my pulse going.

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Should we give him the chance we were going to give Kristo?
We have no choice here.

But there is no space in our line-up for another small player next season.

Kristo was the bare minimum.

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Should we give him the chance we were going to give Kristo?
I wasn't speaking for the management. I was speaking for the fans that hate Thomas for no apparent reason other that he got traded for Kristo.

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Thomas is very talented and a team player. This is a good, good move.

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I don't have to agree with every steps the management does, but I will have to trust them in their decisions.

Go Habs Go.

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Never liked Kristo's attitude off the ice i'm kind of glad we traded him away but i feel we could of gotten more for him.

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Never liked Kristo's attitude off the ice i'm kind of glad we traded him away but i feel we could of gotten more for him.
What more could we have gotten? I kind of think we are big winners in this deal even. Time will tell.

Oh and I have to correct myself form earlier, I did see him play during the WJC, he had a good performance.

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