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07-03-2013, 09:44 AM
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Gorges has already been demonstrably effective come playoff time in 2010 and he was noticeably missed in 2011. I'm not prepared to write him off based on a poorer than average past season. Just as I'm not ready to anoint Emelin a top-4 d-man come playoff time.



Who do you propose they go after? Morrow is in worse shape than Iginla. Clowe is a terrible fit for this team and has been regressing badly for a few years. Horton has concussion problems and has massive contract demands and Clarkson will get stupid money. Who is out there that can effectively improve the size of our top 9. I dont like it any more than you do, but there just isn't anyone out there to fix the problem.
I don't agree......a big winger (practically a heavyweight when he drop the gloves), a natural leader, a character guy able to protect the little guys.

Okay, he is not what he used to be but still....could be more than useful to a small teams like tha Habs.

Some would say that he's often injured, but Newsflash, try to find a intense, physical, fighting guy who always stays healthy!!

99 hits last season in 40 games, none of our forward, including Prust, got more than 87 hits. With the Rangers: 8 pts in 12 games.

He got character
Can fight, Can score, Can lead, Can hit.
And we probably wouldn't need to overpay him like Horton for example!


I would go after Clowe.

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Have been told that there are four teams of note which Iginla considers landing spots. #Rangers #Penguins #Kings #Canucks
oh look, the Rangers are going to sign the biggest contract of this years UFA for the 19th year in a row

what a surprise

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07-03-2013, 09:46 AM
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Pacioretty-Desharnais-Iginla
Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher
Prust-White-Moen
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Hainsey-Subban
Markov-Emelin
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where do I sign?
Problem.

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This free agent pool is relatively weak but as people have said, teams like the Canucks and Flyers are in trouble with the cap. We could always try to take advantage of that and try and grab a player or two from a trade for less than we'd normally have to give.

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07-03-2013, 09:47 AM
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What about Nathan Horton?

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07-03-2013, 09:49 AM
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What about Nathan Horton?
I'd be willing to get him, but he wouldn't be able to be counted on as a top 3 player. He has a tendancy to disappear for long periods of time. He would help bring this team a part of what we're missing. Don't count on him coming here though.

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If Gorges wasn't a top 4 guy he wouldn't be playing 20+ minutes facing tough opposition with good +- numbers. I'm not a big fan of the +- stat but when you face top lines and end up in the + on poor(2011-12 Habs) teams you HAVE to be doing a lot right. Gorges shouldn't be a #2 but he is very solid as a #3-4 guy. He's as good as what teams in the Final 4 had on their 2nd pair.

Diaz, because of his injury, he had very good production early and a few rougher patches late, but overall his production was solidly in the top 4 calibre of play.

I agree we could use a #2 guy but those guys don't grow on trees and are hard to acquire. One possible solution is Markov taking another step forward in his recovery from all the injuries. I think he can be better than he was last year, plus a longer season with more off days will only help him physically.
Gorges played in our top pairing that year because we didn't have much better. We were still a bottom dweller even if he did good (with Subban). I do agree however that he can be a second pairing dman, only if he's paired with someone who can outmuscle the opponent and win battles against the forecheck, for 20 min. +. Same thing with Markov and Diaz. Only Emelin can be decent at that. That's the main issue in our defense.

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What about Nathan Horton?
He wants too much for what he brings, pass.

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What about Nathan Horton?
who?

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What about Nathan Horton?
Habs got about 9 millions left.....minus 2 (a good DG need some Cap space)
White would probably accept his QO....so the Habs got $6.3M available for UFA and the need at least 2 players.

Forget the big fish....no money!!!

And Horton isn't stupid enough top sign with the most hated teams by Bruins Fans.
Not ewith 28 other teams dying the get their hands on this guy

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Max Pacioretty ($4.500m) /David Desharnais ($3.500m) /Brendan Gallagher ($0.870m)
Rene Bourque ($3.333m) / Tomas Plekanec ($5.000m) / Brian Gionta ($5.000m)

Small and weak first two lines. We would be lucky to make the playoffs with a full 82 game season.
I agree, but we're not going to fix that problem overnight. I think Clowe and Coburn go a long way towards making the Habs tougher to play against, but longer term I would be looking for upgrades on Desharnais and Gionta.

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Brendan Morrow anyone?

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And Horton isn't stupid enough top sign with the most hated teams by Bruins Fans.
Not ewith 28 other teams dying the get their hands on this guy
I highly, highly doubt he gives a ****.

If we offer him the best deal, he would come here.

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Brendan Morrow anyone?
I'd do it. Brings a lot of leadership and physical potential to the team. So long as he's a 3rd liner and paid like one over a short term.

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07-03-2013, 10:12 AM
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What about Nathan Horton?
Horton hates the Habs, and we will NOT give him 6 million a year. Next.

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Brendan Morrow anyone?
Morrow's battered body has actually caught up to him. Finished. Next

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07-03-2013, 10:14 AM
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What about Nathan Horton?
I doubt this guy wants to play for this team and rumors out of Boston is that his wife wants to get back were the weather is warmer

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07-03-2013, 10:16 AM
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http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1328101

you don't need to tell me.

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I highly, highly doubt he gives a ****.

If we offer him the best deal, he would come here.
Well, i'm 100% sure that there will be better option for Horton out there.
We don't have the cap space anyway.

I would LOOOOOVE Horton here....but i'm done dreaming.

Anyway, every years, the team who picked up the big UFA, ends up with a very bad contract.

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07-03-2013, 10:21 AM
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I'd do it. Brings a lot of leadership and physical potential to the team. So long as he's a 3rd liner and paid like one over a short term.
I hate to break it to you, but any UFA signed will be overpaid.

Tax, death and overpaid UFA mate.

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07-03-2013, 10:24 AM
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'having a chance to stay was most important. It's not NY, with crazy media. Not Montreal, where you can't go out to dinner.'
What does he know ? What a fkn retard.

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Well, i'm 100% sure that there will be better option for Horton out there.
We don't have the cap space anyway.

I would LOOOOOVE Horton here....but i'm done dreaming.

Anyway, every years, the team who picked up the big UFA, ends up with a very bad contract.
No cap space? Habs have about 9 million left with only 21 players signed. Cap space is not a problem

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07-03-2013, 10:29 AM
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Morrow would be great assuming he's paid like what he is nowadays. I'm expecting teams to get desperate though, I just hope we aren't one of them, since he has character.

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What does he know ? What a fkn retard.
Letang should ask the Norris winner what it's like being a star in Montreal. This guy's a girl anyways, most overpaid defenceman in the NHL now, enjoy the stunningly beautiful city of Pittsburgh..

Oh, and Horton. Like the style of player but come on guys, have you not watched him play the last five years? I'd puke if that ape was on the Habs, epic ******.

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who?
I see what you did there Dr. Seuss

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This is crazy. David Perron is on Montreal radio talking about how he would love to be traded to Montreal, how he would love to play here.

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