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07-02-2013, 11:57 PM
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Does anybody think one of the reasons we traded Christian Thomas is that NYR plan on signing Tolchinsky. Can't have too many small players.
hopefully that is the reason although i love this trade...

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Does anybody think one of the reasons we traded Christian Thomas is that NYR plan on signing Tolchinsky. Can't have too many small players.

Could be. Plus Zucca too. There's only so many midgets you can have in your lineup. Unless you are Habs.

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there is no way that kid is 5'9....looks like he's 5'5-5'6 tops.

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Does anyone know if Buchnevich and Tolchinsky have any prior relationship

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is kristo going to show up?

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is kristo going to show up?
to development camp? no Jim Cerny tweeted that he wont make it I'm pretty sure.

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Also, Tolchinsky is not 5'7" or 5'6". According to his OHL team, he is 5'9

Does anybody think one of the reasons we traded Christian Thomas is that NYR plan on signing Tolchinsky. Can't have too many small players.
He's 5' 7 tops. Dude is small for a pro hockey player. Like extremely small. And thin. He's not 5'9.

And no, tolch and Thomas have no correlation. If we offer tolch a deal its cause we think he can play inspite of his midget size. His skills are undeniable. Hes 5'7 and maybe 160, together both of those are the reason he was not drafted.

Christian Thomas, although smallish, has a world class shot. I mean, lazer beam good. Other than that, he's meh. He skates well enough and gets after it but his finish is what sets him apart.

We did that deal because Danny kristo is a better overall prospect vs Thomas. Period. Kristo was the most dynamic player in the ncaas last season. Kid has real legit dangerous skills.

Montreal wasn't happy he stayed for 4 yrs at no dak.

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Also, Tolchinsky is not 5'7" or 5'6". According to his OHL team, he is 5'9".

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/roster/show/id/10750


I hope NYR sign him. Small player but phenomenal skill.

Does anybody think one of the reasons we traded Christian Thomas is that NYR plan on signing Tolchinsky. Can't have too many small players.
Who cares what his OHL team says he is? He's obviously having his height inflated which is insanely common for either the smallest guys or the biggest guys.

He's not 5'9".

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He's 5' 7 tops. Dude is small for a pro hockey player. Like extremely small. And thin. He's not 5'9.

And no, tolch and Thomas have no correlation. If we offer tolch a deal its cause we think he can play inspite of his midget size. His skills are undeniable. Hes 5'7 and maybe 160, together both of those are the reason he was not drafted.

Christian Thomas, although smallish, has a world class shot. I mean, lazer beam good. Other than that, he's meh. He skates well enough and gets after it but his finish is what sets him apart.

We did that deal because Danny kristo is a better overall prospect vs Thomas. Period. Kristo was the most dynamic player in the ncaas last season. Kid has real legit dangerous skills.

Montreal wasn't happy he stayed for 4 yrs at no dak.
Really hoping Tolch impresses. If he gets pushed around in our camp, we won't sign him (and for good reason). Really hoping he can overcome the size, man.

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Brady Skjei's uncle owns a power skating school. He has been skating since he was 2. Clark made some comments about him a few days ago.

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“We still think Brady Skjei is a top-four defenseman,” Clark said. “We liked him in that Ryan McDonagh-John Moore mold of athleticism and skating.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/sp...icks.html?_r=0

Stop coaching Pat and Andrew Gross were critiquing McIlrath's skating ability. McIlrath stayed out after the scrimmage for a 45 minute power skate with a few of the other players. Those 2 knuckleheads took it as a bad sign. Stick to finding out who will be the assistant coaches on twitter instead of evaluating players. McIlrath doesn't skate like McDonagh,Moore or Skjei. That is not his game.

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Brady Skjei's uncle owns a power skating school. He has been skating since he was 2. Clark made some comments about him a few days ago.



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/sp...icks.html?_r=0

Stop coaching Pat and Andrew Gross were critiquing McIlrath's skating ability. McIlrath stayed out after the scrimmage for a 45 minute power skate with a few of the other players. Those 2 knuckleheads took it as a bad sign. Stick to finding out who will be the assistant coaches on twitter instead of evaluating players. McIlrath doesn't skate like McDonagh,Moore or Skjei. That is not his game.
Skjei's skating stride is effortless. It's all about just being comfortable to keep his feet moving. I'm still very high on him.

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Really hoping Tolch impresses. If he gets pushed around in our camp, we won't sign him (and for good reason). Really hoping he can overcome the size, man.
I think they sign him. They have a ton of contract spots and he can go back to juniors for a couple of seasons at least. He is a real project, but his skills are undeniable.

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07-03-2013, 09:00 AM
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Yogan has the size and strength to go to the net and stay there. Basically I see him more as a 4th liner though who will chip in a few goals here and there--maybe kind of like Daniel Paille though maybe not as good a skater. In time he could move up to the third. Occasional fight--and have to work him into the pk rotation. That's his avenue to the NHL IMO. Don't know if he pk'd last year but if he didn't that's an area he'll need to get good at.

McIlrath just fills a need. Gives our defense an x factor. People don't always realize the psychological factor of having someone that big and mean with mobility on your D. After he's creamed a few people with hits or fights there will be a bit more watching who is on the ice by opposition forwards. They'll know when he is out there and have their heads up not wanting to be the next victim. Games can be won on such small edges.

Don't know if either are ready but if Hagelin and Callahan don't start the season at least some other forward is going to be taking their spots---whether it's a Yogan, Kristo, Miller, Lindberg, Haley.

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Yogan has the size and strength to go to the net and stay there. Basically I see him more as a 4th liner though who will chip in a few goals here and there--maybe kind of like Daniel Paille though maybe not as good a skater. In time he could move up to the third. Occasional fight--and have to work him into the pk rotation. That's his avenue to the NHL IMO. Don't know if he pk'd last year but if he didn't that's an area he'll need to get good at.

McIlrath just fills a need. Gives our defense an x factor. People don't always realize the psychological factor of having someone that big and mean with mobility on your D. After he's creamed a few people with hits or fights there will be a bit more watching who is on the ice by opposition forwards. They'll know when he is out there and have their heads up not wanting to be the next victim. Games can be won on such small edges.

Don't know if either are ready but if Hagelin and Callahan don't start the season at least some other forward is going to be taking their spots---whether it's a Yogan, Kristo, Miller, Lindberg, Haley.
I think Yogan will fit in, eventually, as a 3LW. He is one of the only true power forwards the Rangers have in their organization.

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to development camp? no Jim Cerny tweeted that he wont make it I'm pretty sure.
said Kristo would be in the big-boy camp come September

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Does anyone know if Buchnevich and Tolchinsky have any prior relationship
All I know is that they played on the same junior nation team last year and the one before.

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Agree

People forget to realize there's a difference between being big and playing big as well.
Yes. The Rangers have a well established reputation now. We have players on the small side who play a big game. Now we need to find some bigger guys that can help create some space around our smaller players.

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I really hope Yogan can put it together and stay healthy, I think he can be that 3rd line Dubinsky replacement this team needs.

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Yes. The Rangers have a well established reputation now. We have players on the small side who play a big game. Now we need to find some bigger guys that can help create some space around our smaller players.
Rangers have big players like Nash Pyatt and Boyle but they play smaller than their size... maybe Rangers can sign Marek Malik so they can have another big body that plays small.. i hate players with size that dont know how to use it or are too lazy too... imagine if Rick Nash had the mean streak of Milan Lucic Shane Doan or David Backes... maybe Rangers can talk Eric Daze out of retirement. size dont mean anything if you dont use it to your advanatage....

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Hey Pizza, there you go ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0pl_dqdxhI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbVlVfVIOsg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCEnXaKaGHo


Also, Tolchinsky is not 5'7" or 5'6". According to his OHL team, he is 5'9".

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/roster/show/id/10750


I hope NYR sign him. Small player but phenomenal skill.

Does anybody think one of the reasons we traded Christian Thomas is that NYR plan on signing Tolchinsky. Can't have too many small players.
Thank you Mr. Strap.

Just a gut feeling here, but I think this might be one of those deals that falls into Sathers lap and comes out of the blue. The organization is touting Thomas as a valued asset one day and trades him literally within 24 hours.

Anyway, however it happened, the organization is trimming some smaller players. Kristo is bigger, but not a big guy. He brings a good skill set and a connection and chemistry with some current roster players. Should be interesting.

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I really hope Yogan can put it together and stay healthy, I think he can be that 3rd line Dubinsky replacement this team needs.
No where near as feisty, from what I've seen, but besides that, I think that's exactly what his upside is.

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Rangers have big players like Nash Pyatt and Boyle but they play smaller than their size... maybe Rangers can sign Marek Malik so they can have another big body that plays small.. i hate players with size that dont know how to use it or are too lazy too... imagine if Rick Nash had the mean streak of Milan Lucic Shane Doan or David Backes... maybe Rangers can talk Eric Daze out of retirement. size dont mean anything if you dont use it to your advanatage....
I agree that that kind of player would improve our top 6 by leaps and bounds. I also agree it's a problem the organization has had for a long, long time. Can't remember the last time the Rangers developed a big man to contribute in all areas.

It's NOT Kreider.

He's not out there to drop the gloves ever. Same with Nash. Boyle actually plays a solid physical game, but when it comes to fighting he really crashes into his ceiling as a hockey player. Pyatt was invisible for most of last year. It's the reason they went after Clowe, but as is typical the Rangers acquire this type of player when he's past the point of full filling the role.

This is an area the Rangers simply must address, (they know that) but it is EXTREMELY difficult to do so. These are the hardest hockey players to find. The Rangers will never be in a position to draft a high end player from this space and trading for one will be expensive.

But this is where I think the Rangers have to at least consider biting the bullet and pulling the trigger. I'm generally not a fan of trading assets/prospects, but I think the time may have come.

Who do you guys consider to be the best young big men currently on an NHL roster.

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No where near as feisty, from what I've seen, but besides that, I think that's exactly what his upside is.
Yeah I agree, not as much chippy-ness.

But I also think he doesn't have the selfish streak in him like Dubi sometimes did when it comes to dangling and individual moves, which can be a good thing.

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Yeah I agree, not as much chippy-ness.

But I also think he doesn't have the selfish streak in him like Dubi sometimes did when it comes to dangling and individual moves, which can be a good thing.
Don't agree with Dubi ever being a selfish player. He was always team first, just got stuck on the Rangers at a REALLY bad scoring team with a hurt Gaborik and that's it. Tried to shoulder to much of the scoring, but you can't blame him on tht front...neither here nor there though....


At the end of the day I think Yogan will be a good NHL 3rd line player, whom a lot of teams would kill for.

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