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07-03-2013, 05:43 PM
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He's definitely played more wing than center lately, and wing is really the best chance he has of developing into a top 6 player. I think his skillset is better suited to the wing in general, his hands are by no mean bad but I just don't see him as a primary puck handler.

The Eller, Collberg, De La Rose "Scandinavian line" could be really appealing of Collberg and DLR live up to their potential, obviously it's still a while away but it's nice to dream about.
DLR-Eller-Collberg sounds amazing! Eller and DLR would make a great shutdown pair, and they would provide muscle and grit for Collberg to do his thing.

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07-03-2013, 05:50 PM
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He's definitely played more wing than center lately, and wing is really the best chance he has of developing into a top 6 player. I think his skillset is better suited to the wing in general, his hands are by no mean bad but I just don't see him as a primary puck handler.

The Eller, Collberg, De La Rose "Scandinavian line" could be really appealing of Collberg and DLR live up to their potential, obviously it's still a while away but it's nice to dream about.
That's pretty much exactly what he said to the media in his post-draft interview.

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Hope he joins Vail, but it's a nice problem to have as either option sounds good.

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That's pretty much exactly what he said to the media in his post-draft interview.
Yeah, he was a centre in Leksands junior teams, but has played as a wing since he got brought up to Allsvenskan so I assume that he'll continue doing that! That's good, because Leksand is stacked with centres. If he stays, that is.

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DLR-Eller-Collberg sounds amazing! Eller and DLR would make a great shutdown pair, and they would provide muscle and grit for Collberg to do his thing.
The Viking Line. Or if physical enough, The Berserker Line.


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The Viking Line. Or if physical enough, The Berserker Line.
How about The Axe-in-your-skull-as-we-pillage-your-town-and-take-your-women line?

We need to get more aggressive right?

(Pillage-your-Village line actually has a ring to it though)

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How about The Axe-in-your-skull-as-we-pillage-your-town-and-take-your-women line?

We need to get more aggressive right?

(Pillage-your-Village line actually has a ring to it though)
I doubt Collberg could ever be associated with such a line.

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How about The Axe-in-your-skull-as-we-pillage-your-town-and-take-your-women line?

We need to get more aggressive right?

(Pillage-your-Village line actually has a ring to it though)
Think you would have to use The PYV line.

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I doubt Collberg could ever be associated with such a line.
He does the "take-your-women" part

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He does the "take-your-women" part
And your lousy moral mens!

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I doubt Collberg could ever be associated with such a line.
Obviously I'm Kidding.

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Not a contract issue, its the World Junior Championships. Any non 1st rounder who plays in North America before the age of 20 relinquishes his rights to play for the Swedish U20 team.
This puts DLR in a position where he has to make an awkward decision, even for 2014-15. I guess playing in the WJC for the 3rd time (the one in 2015) may not be viewed as that important.

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This puts DLR in a position where he has to make an awkward decision, even for 2014-15. I guess playing in the WJC for the 3rd time (the one in 2015) may not be viewed as that important.
As big of a stage as it is, the WJC is often a place to showcase oneself. Since he is drafted now, I don't think the WJC would trump his development in NA.

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This puts DLR in a position where he has to make an awkward decision, even for 2014-15. I guess playing in the WJC for the 3rd time (the one in 2015) may not be viewed as that important.
If they win the upcoming one, he'll have a much easier decision I think.

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Why is that a rule? Stupid.

Play WJC, bolt for OHL.

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This puts DLR in a position where he has to make an awkward decision, even for 2014-15. I guess playing in the WJC for the 3rd time (the one in 2015) may not be viewed as that important.
Hmm, weird. That "1st rounder" qualifier seems arbitrary to me. Rakell was picked 30th overall, De La Rose 34th in a stronger draft, should the round make any difference?

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Fake.

Edit: Unless it's new starting with 2014 WJC.


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Edit: Unless it's new starting with 2014 WJC.
It must be, Oscar Dansk was at the WJC last year.

McKenzie talked about this when we picked DLR.

The idea of the rule is for the young non-elite Swedes to stay at home instead of going to the CHL.

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For what it's worth I find Swedish players to have a much better track record developing at home than the do in the CHL. But the most obvious exception there is Landeskog....
You mentionned Landeskog, I would also mention that it hurt Pajjaarvi to stay in Sweden. In Windsor he'll be able to play a power game and develop his offense instead of trying to keep up with adults.

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There might have been some lost in translation in that Windsor thread.

http://blogs.windsorstar.com/2013/07...-import-draft/

“If he had been taken in the first round, Montreal would have dictated where he played,” agent Craig Oster, of Newport Sports Management Inc., said.

“Since he wasn’t drafted in the first round, with the NHL/IIHF transfer agreement, he has to be offered back.”

Former NHL goaltender Tommy Salo is the general manager of Leksand and the man Oster and the Spitfires must work to get de la Rose’s release.

“Mr. Salo is a reasonable man and doesn’t want to hold anyone up, but there are certain rights he has in order for (a release) to be obtained,” Oster said. “We’ll wait and see what’s good for everyone.”

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For what it's worth I find Swedish players to have a much better track record developing at home than the do in the CHL. But the most obvious exception there is Landeskog....

But the idea of DLR playing as a first liner and working on his offensive game is certainly appealing. Though while he will be a 3rd liner in Sweden, he will have a more consistent role than Collberg has had so far.
Very true. They have to come over and adapt to a new culture with a new language, new team mates, a different size rink. Living far from their family etc....

As much as I would like to see DLR in Windsor I think it is best for him if he stays in Sweden. No rush to bring him over anyways. He can come to Hamilton when he is ready.

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There might have been some lost in translation in that Windsor thread.

http://blogs.windsorstar.com/2013/07...-import-draft/

“If he had been taken in the first round, Montreal would have dictated where he played,” agent Craig Oster, of Newport Sports Management Inc., said.

“Since he wasn’t drafted in the first round, with the NHL/IIHF transfer agreement, he has to be offered back.”

Former NHL goaltender Tommy Salo is the general manager of Leksand and the man Oster and the Spitfires must work to get de la Rose’s release.

“Mr. Salo is a reasonable man and doesn’t want to hold anyone up, but there are certain rights he has in order for (a release) to be obtained,” Oster said. “We’ll wait and see what’s good for everyone.”
Aaaaah, Tommy Salo. What a name from the past.

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As de la Rose is a 95-born, that WJC-rule doesn't apply to him. I'll quote a sentence from a letter sent out to the swedes who are playing Memorial of Ivan Hlinka in august. I apologize in advance for my somewhat lousy english.

"The Swedish Icehockey Federation has made the following desicion:
that juniorplayers who leave swedish ice hockey for CHL or any other league outside Sweden can not get selected to play for the U18-squad or any underlying national teams."

Source: http://www.hockeysverige.se/article/...ndslagsplatsen


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I absolutely think that de la Rose is going to get more ice time by the coaches than Sebastian Collberg (who averaged 10minutes/game) got in Frölunda.
With Roger Rönnberg as new head coach for Frölunda HC, Sebastian Collberg will probably get a lot of more ice time this season. Kent Johansson did not play any juniors that much. Sebastian Collberg did thou, play very well after the World Juniors, and finally got some points (Mostly shootout goals), but several game winnings. I havent barely missed any game for Frölunda last 2 seasons. And this season it will be very intresting to follow 2 prospects for Montreal in the SHL

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With Roger Rönnberg as new head coach for Frölunda HC, Sebastian Collberg will probably get a lot of more ice time this season. Kent Johansson did not play any juniors that much. Sebastian Collberg did thou, play very well after the World Juniors, and finally got some points (Mostly shootout goals), but several game winnings. I havent barely missed any game for Frölunda last 2 seasons. And this season it will be very intresting to follow 2 prospects for Montreal in the SHL
That is very true. I was only referring to Collbergs ice time at the same age that DLR will be this year!

I'm confident that Collberg will have his break-out year in Sweden 13/14, and then join the Bullogs in 14/15. Probably with a few NHL appearences. Will for sure be an interesting year for our Habs prospects in the SHL.

Sorry for going off topic, but I feel that these two fellas are linked to together in a very sexy way!

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