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07-04-2013, 07:18 AM
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Had a bit of an awkward conversation with my boss yesterday about Giroux's extension. He says if he signs now his cap hit goes up this year. But that's wrong right? You can't overwrite a contract before it ends, and he is due next July right? I mean with that logic we can resign a player to a cheaper cap friendly deal before their deal is up...


Basically asking when/if G signs, its goes into affect July 2014? Stupid question I know and I'm quite sure I'm right
You're 100% right. He signs today and it kicks in in 2014. He's already under contract for this upcoming season no matter what.

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Had a bit of an awkward conversation with my boss yesterday about Giroux's extension. He says if he signs now his cap hit goes up this year. But that's wrong right? You can't overwrite a contract before it ends, and he is due next July right? I mean with that logic we can resign a player to a cheaper cap friendly deal before their deal is up...


Basically asking when/if G signs, its goes into affect July 2014? Stupid question I know and I'm quite sure I'm right
You're correct.

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Had a bit of an awkward conversation with my boss yesterday about Giroux's extension. He says if he signs now his cap hit goes up this year. But that's wrong right? You can't overwrite a contract before it ends, and he is due next July right? I mean with that logic we can resign a player to a cheaper cap friendly deal before their deal is up...


Basically asking when/if G signs, its goes into affect July 2014? Stupid question I know and I'm quite sure I'm right
You are correct. Same as with Letang. His new deal starts July 2014 as Giroux's will. Might not be worth arguing with your boss over though

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07-04-2013, 07:29 AM
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You are correct. Same as with Letang. His new deal starts July 2014 as Giroux's will. Might not be worth arguing with your boss over though
He's also a Rangers fan. So yeah. I had a main boards convo in real life.

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07-04-2013, 07:34 AM
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He's thoroughly convinced we can't retain Giroux's since we "wasted money on Lecavalier" and that New York will pounce. I said that if that were true Philly would trade players to lock Giroux up. He's not hitting the open market he's still RFA so we can match anything and if he doesn't sign we own his rights until July 2015.

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I'd be pissed if they move Simmonds. He's one of the reasons our power play is so successful.
For Evander Kane, I would consider it.

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07-04-2013, 08:08 AM
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Where are the Winnipeg rumors coming from? I haven't seen any of them. Also if we are talking to Winnipeg, it better not be for Kane, but for Bogo.

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Where are the Winnipeg rumors coming from? I haven't seen any of them. Also if we are talking to Winnipeg, it better not be for Kane, but for Bogo.
Pavelec for Rinaldo + 3rd

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Done, you call the registry and I'll get the beer.

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Done, you call the registry and I'll get the beer.
I'll even drive out to Winnipeg and make sure Pavelec makes his plane.

Note: I think I'll wait awhile to visit the Jets board to see where someone will have posted how we clowns honestly think we can trade a goon and a 3rd (I know, I know, potato / potahto) for a top-rated goaltender like Pavelec.

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He's also a Rangers fan. So yeah. I had a main boards convo in real life.
Does he know his team has a total of four players signed for next season?

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No Simmonds. He have our best contract. And his style is a flyer. I would try to move Couturier before Simmonds to Kane. Like Couturier+Read+Akeson+2/2015 .
And then go after Myers. And get rid of Coburn and Mezzy.

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No Simmonds. He have our best contract. And his style is a flyer. I would try to move Couturier before Simmonds to Kane. Like Couturier+Read+Akeson+2/2015 .
And then go after Myers. And get rid of Coburn and Mezzy.
You'd rather trade Couturier over Simmonds. Ok.

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Had a bit of an awkward conversation with my boss yesterday about Giroux's extension. He says if he signs now his cap hit goes up this year. But that's wrong right? You can't overwrite a contract before it ends, and he is due next July right? I mean with that logic we can resign a player to a cheaper cap friendly deal before their deal is up...


Basically asking when/if G signs, its goes into affect July 2014? Stupid question I know and I'm quite sure I'm right
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He's also a Rangers fan. So yeah. I had a main boards convo in real life.
That sounds absolutely terrifying. Are you ok?

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07-04-2013, 09:31 AM
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Still doesn't account for a $10 mill raise for Goroux and a $30 mill deal for TT. That's only IF we can fend off the revenge OS from NSH.
What do think G will get? I was thinking something similar to the Letang contract.

Sorry guys, just noticed the G thread I will go there, could not find it before.


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What do think G will get? I was thinking something similar to the Letang contract.
I don't know how much G will get, probably league max. NSH has a ton of cap space, and I read a report that Poile was walking the dark streets of NSH grumbling about how the time has finally come. People aren't sure, but they thought they hear Poile in his sandbox say, "lets see how poo-poo head Holmgren likes it."

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You'd rather trade Couturier over Simmonds. Ok.
So we have one better wing (Voracek) than Simmonds. If we try to get our wing better and bigger why you would trade Simmonds?

We have centers (G-Leca-Schenn-Couturier-Laughton-Cousins) in that order. Why you wouldn´t trade your 4th center to get number one winger? I cant get that.

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So when Danny b signs his 1 yr contract for next season, do we bring him back?

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So when Danny b signs his 1 yr contract for next season, do we bring him back?
As a scout? Sure!

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So when Danny b signs his 1 yr contract for next season, do we bring him back?
No, well maybe if he is real cheap

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So when Danny b signs his 1 yr contract for next season, do we bring him back?
I am all for bringing Danny back as long as it is at the deadline. He can play somewhere else from October-February.

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So when Danny b signs his 1 yr contract for next season, do we bring him back?
I don't think so. He needs top 6/9 minutes to be productive. At this point he isn't better than what we have/will have when he is set to hit FA again. He won't be a fourth liner just to be back here. His time was great here, and did wonder for the community and young players. Just like Vinny in Tampa, just time to move on.

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Anyone else waiting for Briere to not sign with Montreal?

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I am all for bringing Danny back as long as it is at the deadline. He can play somewhere else from October-February.
Can't do that, a bought out player isn't allowed back to the team within one year.

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