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07-03-2013, 09:57 PM
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Mainly his contract? He was a healthy scratch the entire 2013 post-season.
he wouldn't have been on our team.

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07-03-2013, 10:02 PM
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With both Hunwick and Zanon clearing waivers, I imagine Elliott will be sent down. And since it doesn't seem like the Avs will do anything via UFA, I fully expect the 2013/2014 Avs to look like this:

Ryan O'Reilly ($5.000m) / Matt Duchene ($3.500m) / P-A Parenteau ($4.000m)
Gabriel Landeskog ($3.575m) / Paul Stastny ($6.600m) / Alex Tanguay ($3.500m)
Jamie McGinn ($1.750m) / Nathan Mackinnon ($3.775m) / Steve Downie ($2.650m)
Cody McLeod ($1.150m) / John Mitchell ($1.100m) / Patrick Bordeleau ($1.000m)
Brad Malone ($0.750m) / Mark Olver ($0.600m) /

Ryan Wilson ($2.250m) / Erik Johnson ($3.750m)
Jan Hejda ($3.250m) / Tyson Barrie ($0.900m)
Matt Hunwick ($1.600m) / Cory Sarich ($2.000m)
Greg Zanon ($2.250m) /

Semyon Varlamov ($2.833m)
Jean-Sebastien Giguere ($1.500m)

SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,283,333; BONUSES: $5,560,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $9,839,167

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Will be fighting to get into the playoffs with that roster. On the plus side, the Avs are 15 million over the cap floor

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07-03-2013, 10:23 PM
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Anyone else think Elliott is going to get called up halfway through the season or something like that and end up sticking with the team? I think Elliott will love Roy's system and excel in it.

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07-03-2013, 10:24 PM
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This is my hope, at the very least:

O'Reilly - Duchene - Parenteau
Tanguay - Stastny - Landeskog
McGinn - Mackinnon - Downie
McCleod - Mitchell - Bordeleau

Mezaros/Klesla/Coburn/Ference - EJ
Hejda - Barrie
Wilson - Sarich
Hunwick

my forward lines would be completely different, but it looks like that's what Roy is going to start with in training camp. Also, my D would have 1 UFA signing (Ballard, Scuderi, Ference) and 1 trade (Coburn, Mezaros, Klesla) with Hunwick + Zanon being moved off the team.

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07-03-2013, 10:38 PM
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Isn't there some kind of "overfaith" in Roy's system in here? He will probably play a style of hockey that will be more fun to watch. But do everyone honestly think it's a style that will make EVERY player on this team better? I have seen all our players named as players that will "be much better in Roy's system" do everyone honestly believe that?

It can probably and hopefully will happen to a few of them, but it will probably be a few who doesn't work out so well too.

I haven't seen Remparts at all, so I'm not sure exactly what kind of hockey we will see. But I'm sure he from time to time will be the "idiot coach" on here.

Roy should make this team better, mostly because most of our young players are in a stage where they should get better as they are growing towards their prime. But I don't think Roy can turn water into wine with this team.

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07-03-2013, 10:42 PM
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Isn't there some kind of "overfaith" in Roy's system in here? He will probably play a style of hockey that will be more fun to watch. But do everyone honestly think it's a style that will make EVERY player on this team better? I have seen all our players named as players that will "be much better in Roy's system" do everyone honestly believe that?

It can probably and hopefully will happen to a few of them, but it will probably be a few who doesn't work out so well too.

I haven't seen Remparts at all, so I'm not sure exactly what kind of hockey we will see. But I'm sure he from time to time will be the "idiot coach" on here.

Roy should make this team better, mostly because most of our young players are in a stage where they should get better as they are growing towards their prime. But I don't think Roy can turn water into wine with this team.
I think everyone is realistic in thinking the team as a whole should improve their play, not that everyone will have breakout years. It's hard to deny the fresh breath he has had to the organization by taking all the steps necessary to improve this team. I also think people realize that it literally can't get any worse than last year. The laid back, not caring, partying and Saccoing culture is out and has been replaced by one that is all about winning. Roy has a great hockey mind, and all him and Sakic have ever done for this franchise is win, so they know what it takes.

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07-03-2013, 10:45 PM
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I think everyone is realistic in thinking the team as a whole should improve their play, not that everyone will have breakout years. It's hard to deny the fresh breath he has had to the organization by taking all the steps necessary to improve this team. I also think people realize that it literally can't get any worse than last year. The laid back, not caring, partying and Saccoing culture is out and has been replaced by one that is all about winning. Roy has a great hockey mind, and all him and Sakic have ever done for this franchise is win, so they know what it takes.
I'm on a wait and see basis still. I like most moves so far. But I also aint one who take player-history into account when I look at the management. But I understand the nostalgia has made people very excited.

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07-04-2013, 12:06 AM
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Isn't there some kind of "overfaith" in Roy's system in here? He will probably play a style of hockey that will be more fun to watch. But do everyone honestly think it's a style that will make EVERY player on this team better? I have seen all our players named as players that will "be much better in Roy's system" do everyone honestly believe that?

It can probably and hopefully will happen to a few of them, but it will probably be a few who doesn't work out so well too.

I haven't seen Remparts at all, so I'm not sure exactly what kind of hockey we will see. But I'm sure he from time to time will be the "idiot coach" on here.

Roy should make this team better, mostly because most of our young players are in a stage where they should get better as they are growing towards their prime. But I don't think Roy can turn water into wine with this team.


I actually disagree with most of this. I really think our entire team will play better under Roy then with Sacco. When we had Sacco as coach we basically had no system at all. It was nothing but dump and chase, that was it. Our trasinitional game was horrible and our Forwards were terribly set up in the Defensive zone.

With Roy we will actually run a system that work for the player on our team. For the most part our players are fast and skilled, Roy is bringing in a system that works well for that type of player.

So yea, I seriously think all of Duchene, Landy, Stas, PAP, EJ, Barrie, etc. will all look a lot better and more comfortable on the ice next year.


I guess if theres anyone that wont look as good, it would be Hejda, Wilson, and McCleod. Just because they aren't as skilled or have the speed the other guys have.


But other then those guys, I really think we'll see our team play a lot better next year.

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07-04-2013, 12:59 AM
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I actually disagree with most of this. I really think our entire team will play better under Roy then with Sacco. When we had Sacco as coach we basically had no system at all. It was nothing but dump and chase, that was it. Our trasinitional game was horrible and our Forwards were terribly set up in the Defensive zone.

With Roy we will actually run a system that work for the player on our team. For the most part our players are fast and skilled, Roy is bringing in a system that works well for that type of player.

So yea, I seriously think all of Duchene, Landy, Stas, PAP, EJ, Barrie, etc. will all look a lot better and more comfortable on the ice next year.


I guess if theres anyone that wont look as good, it would be Hejda, Wilson, and McCleod. Just because they aren't as skilled or have the speed the other guys have.


But other then those guys, I really think we'll see our team play a lot better next year.
I actually think Wilson was better when the Avs played up tempo. He seems better when the ice is open and the teams go back and forth a bit, rather than being parked for long stretches down low. Gives him more opportunities to separate a single puck carrier from the puck and disrupt the play rather than fighting along the boards and out front of the net against multiple forwards.

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07-04-2013, 01:45 AM
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Roy gave an interview in Québec after the CHL import draft. May have been mentioned already but he said he's planning on having those lines to begin the season.

ROR - Duchene - Parenteau
Tanguay - Stastny - Landeskog
McGinn - MacKinnon - Downie

Also, MacKinnon mentionned he'd like to stay with Giguère.

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07-04-2013, 02:13 AM
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I want our goalies to become "experts" in handling the puck far out from the crease. I want Roy to get minor heart irregularities just because of that. I want him to suffer the way I did when he was goalie.

Can we steal Erik Gustafsson from Flyers?

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Roy gave an interview in Québec after the CHL import draft. May have been mentioned already but he said he's planning on having those lines to begin the season.

ROR - Duchene - Parenteau
Tanguay - Stastny - Landeskog
McGinn - MacKinnon - Downie

Also, MacKinnon mentionned he'd like to stay with Giguère.
First Roy and now MacKinnon, how can Jiggy say no now?

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07-04-2013, 09:03 AM
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How old is Giguere's daughter now? 15? 16? Better keep an eye on MacK. 17 year olds will be 17 year olds.

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How old is Giguere's daughter now? 15? 16? Better keep an eye on MacK. 17 year olds will be 17 year olds.
So hide yo kids and hide yo wives!

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Such a classic.
WOW, I have never seen this. Absolutely crazy. Ballard actually hit Vokoun, WTF!

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Roy gave an interview in Québec after the CHL import draft. May have been mentioned already but he said he's planning on having those lines to begin the season.

ROR - Duchene - Parenteau
Tanguay - Stastny - Landeskog
McGinn - MacKinnon - Downie

Also, MacKinnon mentionned he'd like to stay with Giguère.
I'm drooling to see these lines in action and I'm crying when I see our defense lineup. Mixed feelings.

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07-04-2013, 10:25 AM
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Anyone else think Elliott is going to get called up halfway through the season or something like that and end up sticking with the team? I think Elliott will love Roy's system and excel in it.
Agreed. I really think inactivity on the FA D front is warranted. We have 2, possibly 3 defensemen we've invested at least 2 development years in that may be ready to contribute. How would they get the opportunity if we shell out 5 million / year for an aging vet, not to mention the difficulty in signing all our RFAs next off season.

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I'm drooling to see these lines in action and I'm crying when I see our defense lineup. Mixed feelings.
I'd want to move one of the top 6 for a defender and then move Mac up.

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I'd want to move one of the top 6 for a defender and then move Mac up.
I think I prefer giving ALOT of 3rd line time to Mac. He'll already feel under the microscope so taking a bit of pressure off should help. On top of it, he'll be getting good PP minutes. something around 13-16 mins per game would be fine imo for a good long while.

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07-04-2013, 11:15 AM
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Haha, that thread in the prospects forum from 2008 about what the team would look like in 5 years. Here's Benders (picked first Avs poster in that thread) Avs 2013 team

Colorado

Wolski-Stastny-Svatos
Smyth-Hensick-Stewart
Galiardi-Stoa-Jones
Tessier-Carman-Jeremy Morin

Liles-Shattenkirk
Cumiskey-Cohen
Leopold-Williams

Budaj
Delmas/Sauer

Only player that's left is Stastny and he might be gone in a year. Shows that you should never get married to prospects.

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I want our goalies to become "experts" in handling the puck far out from the crease. I want Roy to get minor heart irregularities just because of that. I want him to suffer the way I did when he was goalie.


Winner!!

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07-04-2013, 11:36 AM
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Roy gave an interview in Québec after the CHL import draft. May have been mentioned already but he said he's planning on having those lines to begin the season.

ROR - Duchene - Parenteau
Tanguay - Stastny - Landeskog
McGinn - MacKinnon - Downie

Also, MacKinnon mentionned he'd like to stay with Giguère.
Obviously I'm intrigued to see how these lines do, but they wouldn't be my first choice. Don't like ROR on the wing as I feel his skills are wasted. My lines would be something like:

McGinn - Duchene - Parenteau --> if it ain't broke, don't fix it.. hopefully Ginner will hit less posts and more mesh.
Landeskog - O'Reilly - Downie --> reunited and it feels so good
Tanguay - Stastny - Mackinnon --> 2 vet passers with a finishing rookie

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Haha, that thread in the prospects forum from 2008 about what the team would look like in 5 years. Here's Benders (picked first Avs poster in that thread) Avs 2013 team

Colorado

Wolski-Stastny-Svatos
Smyth-Hensick-Stewart
Galiardi-Stoa-Jones
Tessier-Carman-Jeremy Morin

Liles-Shattenkirk
Cumiskey-Cohen
Leopold-Williams

Budaj
Delmas/Sauer

Only player that's left is Stastny and he might be gone in a year. Shows that you should never get married to prospects.
Saw that someone bumped that thread back up. Hilarious to think what our core was back then considered to where it is at now. So much can change.

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07-04-2013, 01:35 PM
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Haha, that thread in the prospects forum from 2008 about what the team would look like in 5 years. Here's Benders (picked first Avs poster in that thread) Avs 2013 team

Colorado

Wolski-Stastny-Svatos
Smyth-Hensick-Stewart
Galiardi-Stoa-Jones
Tessier-Carman-Jeremy Morin

Liles-Shattenkirk
Cumiskey-Cohen
Leopold-Williams

Budaj
Delmas/Sauer

Only player that's left is Stastny and he might be gone in a year. Shows that you should never get married to prospects.
Would be interesting to see what that line up became as of now. ex: cohen-----> Hunwick.

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Any lines that don't have Mack at center, I automatically hate.

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