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07-04-2013, 08:31 PM
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Unless Inginla takes a massive pay cut (like Kariya and Selanne the year they went to the Avs) or Pyatt and Boyle are moved in the next twelve hours, he's not coming here.
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I could see Schenn and Couturier having breakout years and Holmer moving Giroux before the draft next season for more magical beans.

lol nvm, he got a full NMC. Smart Giroux.

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Glad to see Asham and Powe on waivers.

Worried Sather does something stupid tomorrow, like signing more garbage for the bottom six.

Really hope to see a combination of Lindberg, Fast, Miller, Kristo, Boyle, Pyatt, Dorsett in the bottom six.

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So we only have an hour left to buyout Richards? I'm hoping for a miracle.

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Hopefully the Asham and Powe waiving lead to a shuffling of the bottom 6. It's much needed.

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Don't understand wanting to sign more centers? Miller is all but guaranteed to make the team, that gives them 5...

At a minimum if you are looking for more face off guys you need to be looking at guys who can play wing too.

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Don't understand wanting to sign more centers? Miller is all but guaranteed to make the team, that gives them 5...

At a minimum if you are looking for more face off guys you need to be looking at guys who can play wing too.
After last year with Kreider, there are no guarantees. He should have been in the minors all season. Same with Miller.

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Don't understand wanting to sign more centers? Miller is all but guaranteed to make the team, that gives them 5...

At a minimum if you are looking for more face off guys you need to be looking at guys who can play wing too.
Nystrom, Grabovski, Lapierre can all play wing. So can all the rangers centers.

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Hopefully the Asham and Powe waiving lead to a shuffling of the bottom 6. It's much needed.
Hopefully. Anything on Pyatt? Wasn't that big of a fan.

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Hopefully. Anything on Pyatt? Wasn't that big of a fan.
I hope he's moved

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After last year with Kreider, there are no guarantees. He should have been in the minors all season. Same with Miller.
With no Cally and no hags to start the year Miller will be on the team, how long he stays is a different question

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Nystrom, Grabovski, Lapierre can all play wing. So can all the rangers centers.
I think this is mostly wishful thinking believing that Richards and brassard can be competent wingers. Don't think either have played it much in a long time

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Everyone else is resigning their RFAs and we have heard square about ours

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So we only have an hour left to buyout Richards? I'm hoping for a miracle.
buyout window closes hours ago at 5pm

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Pyatt was really tough to watch this year, please please move him.

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Grabovski was totally right about calling out Carlyle with his ********. Grabs got screwed over since Carlyle came on as coach for the Leafs and he has a right to be pissed when they're riding Tyler ****ing Bozak who is worse than Grabovski in every way

I thought Torts was harsh on Kreider at times last season. Maybe Kreider should've called him out. You know it's a good thing when players call out their coaches.

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any chance the rangers pick up gerbe?

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trading Del Zotto will make 2.9 next year and Boyle 1.8 next year...

rather give that 4.7 to Mikhail Grabovski and the other UFA

I'd beyond pissed if that happened.

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Wow, if Boston can get Eriksson for Seguin that's an excellent return. Eriksson is very good.

Might be in minority here but I'd rather have Seguin than Eriksson. Hard to believe Seguin is only 21.

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Bad fit. Clowe is like 6'2.


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Brooks says Rangers have talked with Dom Moore about being 4th line center.

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The Post has learned the Rangers have held discussions with fourth-line, checking-oriented center Dominic Moore, who is pondering a return to the league after sitting out last season after the death of his wife, Katie, who lost her two-year fight against a rare form of liver cancer on Jan. 7.

A source has confirmed Moore, who will turn 33 next month, had spoken extensively with the Rangers last year before the lockout and likely would have signed with the club if his wife’s medical condition had allowed.

Moore, who began his career with the Blueshirts in 2005-06 as the center of the HMO Line between Ryan Hollweg and Jed Ortmeyer, earned an average of $1.1 million his last three seasons. That’s a number the Blueshirts can accommodate.

Signing Moore would allow the Rangers to move Brian Boyle, whose $1.7 million cap hit is a bit pricey for a fourth-line center under prevailing conditions, to the wing to at least start the season — or out of town as part of a trade.

If the Rangers pass on Moore, the club could have interest in fourth-line center Maxim Lapierre, who filled the role as the defensive faceoff specialist in Vancouver last year for coach Alain Vigneault after Manny Malhotra went on long-term injury reserve with an eye injury.

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Pyatt hate is resurfacing. I don't think Torts was adamant on getting the physicality out of Pyatt. He was content with his board work and some of his net front work. He used Pyatt to retrieve some pucks and not much else. AV and Pyatt worked together before, he had a good season under AV. Even though that's far removed from anything relevant to this team and their dynamic now, it's still something I see as a positive to retaining Pyatt.

He's not THAT slow.
He can be more physical.
He's okay net front, can be great.

He did score more goals than anyone else among the B6ers with 6G5A, 2G2A in the playoffs. He's shown in the past year that he's not a defensive liability.

The reason why he was signed wasn't used to the fullest last season in my opinion and even though he's not going to magically transform, going forward with Pyatt in the next year, it'll give AV some options.

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RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS 2013 (7)
Nr Pos PlayerCaphit 2013 Status Team Drafted
1 D McDonagh, Ryan (ELC) $1,300,000* Qualified New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 Montreal (2007)
2 F Stepan, Derek (ELC)$875,000 QualifiedNew York Rangers/NHLR2 #51 NYR (2008)
3 F Hagelin, Carl (ELC) $875,000* Qualified New York Rangers/NHL R6 #168 NYR (2007)
4 D Falk, Justin $825,000 Qualified Minnesota Wild/NHL R4 #110 Minnesota Wild (2007)
5 F Zuccarello, Mats $700,000 Qualified New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
6 D Niemi, Jyri (ELC) $700,000* Qualified? Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL R3 #72 NYI (2008)
7 F Mashinter, Brandon $550,000Qualified Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS 2013 (9)
Nr Pos Player Caphit 2013 Status Team Drafted
1 F Clowe, Ryan $3,625,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R6 #175 San Jose (2001)
2 D Hamrlik, Roman $3,500,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #1 Washington (1992)
3 D Sauer, Michael $1,250,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R2 #40 NYR (2005)
4 D Eminger, Steve $750,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 Washington (2002)
5 D Gilroy, Matt $650,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
6 D Collins, Sean $600,000 UFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
7 D Pyett, Logan $600,000 UFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R7 #212 Detroit (2006)
8 F Segal, Brandon $550,000 UFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R4 #102 Nashville (2002)
9 D Vernace, Mike $525,000 UFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R7 #201 San Jose (2004)

PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS 2013-2014 (38)
NEW YORK RANGERS (16)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted
1 F Brassard, Derick $3,200,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #6 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
2 D Del Zotto, M. $2,550,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #20 NYR (2008)
3 F Kreider, Chris (ELC) $1,325,000* RFA 2014New York Rangers/NHL R1 #19 NYR (2009)
4 D Moore, John (ELC) $965,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #21 Columbus Blue Jackets (2009)
5 G Lundqvist, Henrik $6,875,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #208 NYR (2000)
6 F Callahan, Ryan $4,275,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R4 #127 NYR (2004)
7 D Girardi, Dan $3,325,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
8 D Stralman, Anton $1,700,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #216 Toronto (2005)
9 F Boyle, Brian $1,700,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #26 Los Angeles (2003)
10 F Pyatt, Taylor $1,550,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #8 New York Isles (1999)
11 F Powe, Darroll $1,066,667 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
12 G Biron, Martin $1,300,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #16 Buffalo (1995)
13 F Asham, Arron $1,000,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R3 #71 Montreal (1996)
14 D Staal, Marc $3,975,000 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 NYR (2005)
15 F Dorsett, Derek $1,633,333 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #189 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
16 F Nash, Rick (NMC) $7,800,000 UFA 2019 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #1 Columbus (2002)
17 F Richards, Brad (NMC) $6,666,667 UFA 2020 New York Rangers/NHL R3 #64 Tampa Bay (1998)

Capspace 2013/2014 (17 players) - $14,155,833

Assigned to AHL/ECHL (22)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted
18 F Kristo, Danny (ELC) $1,300,000* RFA 2014 Hamilton Bulldogs/AHL R2 #56 Montreal Canadians (2008)
19 F Jean, Kyle (ELC) $925,000* RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
20 F Bourque, Ryan (ELC) $900,000* RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL R3 #80 NYR (2009)
21 G Missiaen, Jason (ELC) $750,000* RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHLUndrafted
22 G Stajcer, Scott (ELC) $700,000* RFA 2014 Greenville Road Warriors/ECHLR5 #140 NYR (2009)
23 F Wilson, Jason (ELC) $588,333 RFA 2014 Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL R5 #130 NYR (2010)
24 D Bickel, Stu $750,000 UFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
25 F Haley, Micheal $600,000 UFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
26 D Syrvet, Danny $587,500 UFA 2014 Adirondack Phantoms/AHL R3 #81 Edmonton Oliers(2005)
27 D McIlrath, Dylan (ELC) $1,295,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHLR1 #10 NYR (2010)
28 F Miller, J.T. (ELC) $1,244,167* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL R1 #15 NYR (2011)
29 F Fast(h), Jesper (ELC) $900,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHLR6 #157 NYR (2010)
30 F Yogan, Andrew (ELC) $800,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL R4 #100 NYR (2010)
31 F Lindberg, Oscar (ELC) $760,000* RFA 2015Team Sweden R2 #57 PHX (2010)
32 F Hrivik, Marek (ELC) $685,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
33 G Talbot, Cameron $562,600 UFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL undrafted
34 D Allen, Connor (ELC) $1,775,000* RFA 2016UMass/NCAAundrafted
35 D Hughes, Tommy (ELC) $608,333 RFA 2016Juniors - London Knights/OHLundrafted
36 F Nicholls, J. (ELC) $709,167 RFA 2016 Juniors - Saskatoon Blades/WHL R7 #182 Toronto Maple Leafs (2010)
37 D Noreau, Samuel (ELC) $685,000 RFA 2016 Juniors - Baie-Comeau Drakkar/LHJMQ R5 #136 NYR(2011)
38 F St. Croix, M. (ELC) $665,000 RFA 2016 Juniors - Edmonton Oil Kings/WHL R4 #106 NYR (2011)
39 F Kantor, Michael (ELC) $583,333 RFA 2016 Juniors - Sudbury Wolves/OHLUndrafted

Players still unsigned but with rights retained by NYR (there are likely a few more here I believe)
Pos PlayerTeam Drafted
D Pashnin, Mikhail HC Lokomotiv Yaroslavl/KHL R7 #200 NYR (2009)
F Fogarty, Steven Notre Dame Fighting Irish/NCAA R3 #72 NYR (2011)
D Skjei, Brady Minnesota Golden Gophers/NCAA R1 #28 NYR (2012)
F Nieves, Cristoval Michigan Wolverines/NCAA R2 #59 NYR (2012)
D Andersson, Calle Malmö /HA R4 #119 NYR (2012)
F Spelling, Thomas Oskarshamn/HA R5 #142 NYR(2012)
F Adam Tambellini North Dakota/NCAA R3 #65 NYR(2013)
F Pavel Buchnevich Cherepovets/KHL R3 #75 NYR(2013)
F Anthony Duclair Quebec/QMJHL R3 #80 NYR(2013)
D Ryan Graves PEI/QMJHL R4 #110 NYR(2013)
GMackenzie Skapski Kootenay/WHL R6 #170 NYR(2013)
* - includes bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract

2014 Draft picks
  • 1st round NYR
  • 2nd round NYR*
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 4th round NYR
  • 5th round Florida (for Casey Wellman)
  • 5th round NYR*
  • 6th round NYR
  • 7th round NYR*
  • Eventually NO 2nd rounder NYR (conditionally traded to San Jose for Ryan Clowe in 2013 - condition being if he resigns with NYR - then San Jose gets the pick. It will be the Rangers' 5th-round pick in 2014 condition is not met.
  • Eventually NO 7th rounder (conditionally traded to San Jose along with Tommy "horror-movie" Grant for Brandon Mashinter 2013 - condition being if he resigns with NYR then San Jose gets the pick). B. Mashinter has now been qualified - likely meaning this pick is going to San José


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Hey BBKers just to help along with your great chart. Rangers sent the Wild the jackets 6th round pick, they still have their own, and Niemi was not qualified.

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New York Rangers President and General Manager Glen Sather announced today that the club has acquired defenseman Justin Falk from Minnesota in exchange for forward Benn Ferriero and a sixth-round pick (originally Columbus’) in the 2014 NHL Draft.

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Rangers also did not extend qualifying offers to Niemi and Pamieri. Would not have qualified Ferriero, either. Ferriero was traded for Falk.

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Hey BBKers just to help along with your great chart. Rangers sent the Wild the jackets 6th round pick, they still have their own, and Niemi was not qualified.
Thanx - about the Wild trade you are totally correct. Will fix. Saw on cap geek that Niemi is still listed as an RFA even though beat writers have said he is not qualified. Will just wait and see there... You are probably right but I did not delete him due to this unclarity...

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PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS 2013-2014 (38)
NEW YORK RANGERS (16)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted
1 F Brassard, Derick $3,200,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #6 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
2 D Del Zotto, M. $2,550,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #20 NYR (2008)
3 F Kreider, Chris (ELC) $1,325,000* RFA 2014New York Rangers/NHL R1 #19 NYR (2009)
4 D Moore, John (ELC) $965,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #21 Columbus Blue Jackets (2009)
5 G Lundqvist, Henrik $6,875,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #208 NYR (2000)
6 F Callahan, Ryan $4,275,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R4 #127 NYR (2004)
7 D Girardi, Dan $3,325,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
8 D Stralman, Anton $1,700,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #216 Toronto (2005)
9 F Boyle, Brian $1,700,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #26 Los Angeles (2003)
10 F Pyatt, Taylor $1,550,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #8 New York Isles (1999)
11 F Powe, Darroll $1,066,667 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
12 G Biron, Martin $1,300,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #16 Buffalo (1995)
13 F Asham, Arron $1,000,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R3 #71 Montreal (1996)
14 D Staal, Marc $3,975,000 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 NYR (2005)
15 F Dorsett, Derek $1,633,333 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #189 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
16 F Nash, Rick (NMC) $7,800,000 UFA 2019 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #1 Columbus (2002)
17 F Richards, Brad (NMC) $6,666,667 UFA 2020 New York Rangers/NHL R3 #64 Tampa Bay (1998)

Capspace 2013/2014 (17 players) - $14,155,833

ALL of the players going to free agency in 2014 SHOULD be playing for contract extensions, especially the ones on ELC's that want raises next year. This is the perfect opportunity to actual produce points and score goals, especially under a new coach with fresh blood and fresh play making methods. Should these guys work their ***** off, not only will they get contract extensions, but I can surely see us back into the playoffs, and not as a bottom feeder

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ALL of the players going to free agency in 2014 SHOULD be playing for contract extensions, especially the ones on ELC's that want raises next year. This is the perfect opportunity to actual produce points and score goals, especially under a new coach with fresh blood and fresh play making methods. Should these guys work their ***** off, not only will they get contract extensions, but I can surely see us back into the playoffs, and not as a bottom feeder
Good point. Desperadoes for the dough!

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Nystrom, Grabovski, Lapierre can all play wing. So can all the rangers centers.
You can't have too many centers. Not all can be moved to the wing without suffering, but many can make the move.

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The Rangers could use depth on defense as well, though they seem to be prepared to enter the season with the current seven-man group consisting of Dan Girardi, Ryan McDonagh (presuming he is re-signed), Marc Staal (believed recovering well from his eye injury), Anton Stralman, Michael Del Zotto, John Moore and Justin Falk.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/range...ontent=Rangers

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